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General Category => Altrincham FC First Team => Topic started by: TheCultOfIanTunnacliffe on September 18, 2013, 06:09:21 PM

Title: Bill Shankly & Gerry Berman
Post by: TheCultOfIanTunnacliffe on September 18, 2013, 06:09:21 PM

I managed to locate this old favourite via a Liverpool fans' message board:


(http://www.redandwhitekop.com/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=173442.0;attach=110184)


The following text was posted by the person who had uploaded the above photograph:


"A large copy of the above photograph had been hung on the wall of the Boardroom at Altrincham FC for many years. It shows Bill Shankly, one of the greatest managers of Liverpool FC, and our ex-chairman a youthful Gerry Berman, the one with the long hair in the old stand at Burscough FC.

On 30 March 2002, Burscough played Alty at to Moss Lane and I will not mention the result, except to say they went away happy, including their Secretary Stan Strickland. Stan had seen the photo and asked if he could have a copy. Not having seen the photo, I said I would scan it and send him a print. However, the photo was too big for my equipment and it had to be done professionally. It was scanned, printed and sent to Stan.

I was interested in the story behind the picture and here it is. It is based on long term memories of several so if any of the visitors to the site can confirm or expand on the story I would be most grateful.

After leaving Liverpool, Bill Shankly, a long-time friend of Tony Sanders, then the manager of Altrincham, acted as advisor to the club. He and Gerry Berman went to a pre-season friendly at  Burscough in August 1979 to evaluate a possible signing for Alty. It is not clear who the player was or whether the player was signed. Also it was not clear whether Alty were Burscough opponents or what was the result.

The photo, the original of which is held by Gerry, was probably taken by a photographer from the Daily Mail and appeared in that paper in August 1979 with the caption "We know who you are Gerry Berman but who is that with you?"

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Footnote: Alty did, indeed, play a pre-season friendly at Burscough on 11th August 1979.
 

Title: Re: Bill Shankly & Gerry Berman
Post by: Timperley The Best on September 19, 2013, 09:31:09 AM
Interesting story wonder if gb goes to any games nowdays
Title: Re: Bill Shankly & Gerry Berman
Post by: Jezza on September 19, 2013, 05:11:27 PM
I was inspired to google image tony sanders and came up with this image I don't think I've seen before...bramhall lane I think?...recgonise john owens, is the striker JR?

(http://www.non-leagueclubdirectory.co.uk/images/uploads/club_photos/4/altrincham04.jpg)
Title: Re: Bill Shankly & Gerry Berman
Post by: Leon on September 19, 2013, 05:12:43 PM
Might be Barry Whitbread?
Title: Re: Bill Shankly & Gerry Berman
Post by: TheCultOfIanTunnacliffe on September 19, 2013, 05:34:13 PM

I'm pretty certain that is John Rogers in the act of scoring one of the two goals he got on that particular afternoon.

However, the more pressing question remains: just what on earth was John Owens doing that far forward...?!



Title: Re: Bill Shankly & Gerry Berman
Post by: JTH on September 19, 2013, 10:14:24 PM

I'm pretty certain that is John Rogers in the act of scoring one of the two goals he got on that particular afternoon.

However, the more pressing question remains: just what on earth was John Owens doing that far forward...?!





2nd equaliser Nov 1981. I watched Bruce Springsteen from that very spot 7 years later (before Mad Frankie interjects no he wasn't turning out for Barnsley)

Title: Re: Bill Shankly & Gerry Berman
Post by: JDN on September 19, 2013, 10:19:11 PM
Interesting story wonder if gb goes to any games nowdays
regularly seen in tescos having breakfast with Mark Harris
Title: Re: Bill Shankly & Gerry Berman
Post by: York Alty on September 19, 2013, 10:20:33 PM
Interesting story wonder if gb goes to any games nowdays
regularly seen in tescos having breakfast with Mark Harris

As in Witton Albion and ex Alty Mark Harris?
Title: Re: Bill Shankly & Gerry Berman
Post by: JDN on September 19, 2013, 10:29:15 PM
Interesting story wonder if gb goes to any games nowdays
regularly seen in tescos having breakfast with Mark Harris

As in Witton Albion and ex Alty Mark Harris?
yes
Title: Re: Bill Shankly & Gerry Berman
Post by: Timperley The Best on September 19, 2013, 10:33:38 PM
Always thought he was fan as well as chairman maybe got that. Wrong
Title: Re: Bill Shankly & Gerry Berman
Post by: York Alty on September 19, 2013, 10:34:58 PM
Interesting story wonder if gb goes to any games nowdays
regularly seen in tescos having breakfast with Mark Harris

As in Witton Albion and ex Alty Mark Harris?
yes

That's great, good to hear they still keep in touch.  ta
Title: Re: Bill Shankly & Gerry Berman
Post by: Jezza on September 20, 2013, 07:42:40 AM
what was the crowd at bramhall lane?.....That was a proper old big football ground probably my favourite it had real character....I can remember being on the terrace underneath the huge concrete pillared stand....
Title: Re: Bill Shankly & Gerry Berman
Post by: Timperley The Best on September 20, 2013, 08:09:29 AM
what was the crowd at bramhall lane?.....That was a proper old big football ground probably my favourite it had real character....I can remember being on the terrace underneath the huge concrete pillared stand....


Around 12k rings a bell ?
Title: Re: Bill Shankly & Gerry Berman
Post by: Steve from Sale on September 20, 2013, 08:59:35 AM
Message for JTH - I was at the Bruce Spingsteen concert also!!
Title: Re: Bill Shankly & Gerry Berman
Post by: roytonmike on September 20, 2013, 09:04:06 AM
what was the crowd at bramhall lane?.....That was a proper old big football ground probably my favourite it had real character....I can remember being on the terrace underneath the huge concrete pillared stand....
12,433 (replay 5,137).