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General Category => Altrincham FC First Team => Topic started by: TheCultOfIanTunnacliffe on August 21, 2015, 06:50:57 PM

Title: "For an undisclosed fee in the region of £100,000, plus add-ons".
Post by: TheCultOfIanTunnacliffe on August 21, 2015, 06:50:57 PM

Guesswork by the MEN regarding that figure?


“Our revenues are quite static so when we get a fillip it really helps us,” said Rowley.

 “The money from Sunderland meant we bought a couple of players in who helped us get promotion in 2014 and we chipped in to build our new community sports hall.”


http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/manchester-united-story-premier-leagues-9885017 (http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/manchester-united-story-premier-leagues-9885017)


Title: Re: "For an undisclosed fee in the region of £100,000, plus add-ons".
Post by: brian1925 on August 21, 2015, 08:04:58 PM
I wonder what the add ons  are. Sunderland fans were ringing radio stations before singing Dunc's praises, so hopefully he'll get a run of games now.
Title: Re: "For an undisclosed fee in the region of £100,000, plus add-ons".
Post by: Timperley The Best on August 21, 2015, 08:52:04 PM
I wonder what the add ons  are. Sunderland fans were ringing radio stations before singing Dunc's praises, so hopefully he'll get a run of games now.

Possibly a payment after a certain number of appearances,maybe after around 25 ?
Title: Re: "For an undisclosed fee in the region of £100,000, plus add-ons".
Post by: Jenga on August 21, 2015, 10:23:28 PM
I thought the budget from the CSH was different to that from the playing budget?
Title: Re: "For an undisclosed fee in the region of £100,000, plus add-ons".
Post by: distancetraveller on August 21, 2015, 11:04:45 PM
I Also thought. that the community hall was independent of such things as transfer / playing budgets
Title: Re: "For an undisclosed fee in the region of £100,000, plus add-ons".
Post by: im not really here on August 21, 2015, 11:21:53 PM
How naïve?
Title: Re: "For an undisclosed fee in the region of £100,000, plus add-ons".
Post by: distancetraveller on August 21, 2015, 11:45:55 PM
How naïve?

What do you know then to come to the conclusion that we are naive.

The impression I got was the community hall was independent from the playing budget
Title: Re: "For an undisclosed fee in the region of £100,000, plus add-ons".
Post by: JTH on August 22, 2015, 12:42:01 AM
I thought the budget from the CSH was different to that from the playing budget?

I thought the club lent about £30k to the Community Hall to get it over the line?
Title: Re: "For an undisclosed fee in the region of £100,000, plus add-ons".
Post by: Hale Alty on August 22, 2015, 07:27:54 AM
Not all the cost of running a football club is playing biudget.
Title: Re: "For an undisclosed fee in the region of £100,000, plus add-ons".
Post by: Bob on August 22, 2015, 09:10:09 AM
Not all the cost of running a football club is playing biudget.

Exactly. HMRC, travel, catering, policing and so on and so on.

You could argue that all of the money could have gone on wages, but you dont get big transfer fees coming in often here. We put a big chunk of that money towards increasing the wage bill and some towards the long term infrastructure of the club. That money for the hall should be repaid and the hall itself is contributing to our income and profile.

The board got it right in my view.
Title: Re: "For an undisclosed fee in the region of £100,000, plus add-ons".
Post by: Toff Apple on August 22, 2015, 09:17:12 AM
First time we have seen that in print although suspected.  I would guess add ons would be for a 1st team appearance and a percentage (perhaps 10 - thats what accrington did with ormerod) of sell on fee.  Lets hope for a 10mil bid from liverpool
Title: Re: "For an undisclosed fee in the region of £100,000, plus add-ons".
Post by: Bath Alty on August 22, 2015, 11:06:28 AM
The board promised the CSH wouldn't affect the playing budget.  They made no promises about spending any / all of the Duncan money on the playing budget, they spent some on that according to the article and some on CSH and I'm sure some on other things.  Don't see the issue myself, looks like a good balanced approach to me.
Title: Re: "For an undisclosed fee in the region of £100,000, plus add-ons".
Post by: Uncle Globnasty on August 23, 2015, 03:13:21 PM
First time we have seen that in print although suspected.  I would guess add ons would be for a 1st team appearance and a percentage (perhaps 10 - thats what accrington did with ormerod) of sell on fee.  Lets hope for a 10mil bid from liverpool

Please anyone but Liverpool, or I'll no longer be able to support his progress.
Title: Re: "For an undisclosed fee in the region of £100,000, plus add-ons".
Post by: markecky on August 24, 2015, 01:20:55 PM
It was announced in the early stages of the community hall development that the club had lent £25,000 to get the project started.  

Anyone would surely know that you can't start such things without some working capital.

Maybe some more of it was used, I certainly hope so if it was needed.  

Can't understand why some want such a disconnect between the two, would get it if it was just a sports hall with no bar and we still had only the old facilities.  Or we had got rid of Reeves and another couple in order to build it.

It also gets forgotten that the project allowed the referees facilities to be brought to the ever increasing required levels and the away dressing rooms to be made twice as big.  I know that this has helped us to get United games here, another invaluable source of income. This money would have to have been found to do this work if there was no CSH project.

As homely as the damp old bar was, the club was never going to survive on it's model of matchday income only every fortnight and pour every penny into players pockets.

I would imagine it will take a few years and some more fundraising yet to turn a profit but it was said that profit from it would then go into ground improvements.  

However we now have a facility you wouldn't be embarrassed to hold a family function in, a larger matchday facility and a platform to run the community schemes from as well as the potential for hire for meetings, presentations and in house sportsman dinners.  The family day at the beer festival brought the club and it's facilities to a whole new audience, it just would not have been the same without the CSH.  

To get that built largely by grants and minimal football club investment was a work of genius in my opinion.

Title: Re: "For an undisclosed fee in the region of £100,000, plus add-ons".
Post by: ManagementGuru on August 24, 2015, 01:51:08 PM
re Duncan's appearances, that's two now in the Premier League, with a 5 minute cameo on Saturday
Title: Re: "For an undisclosed fee in the region of £100,000, plus add-ons".
Post by: Hale Alty on August 24, 2015, 02:52:27 PM
I wonder if anyone has bought him some new boots yet.