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General Category => Altrincham FC First Team => Topic started by: Jezza on December 19, 2017, 09:05:45 PM
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Singing cantana songs not cool...embarassing..
Letting off a flare coz we go 1-0 up vs warrington downright embarassing.
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Very good question. Also, even more embarrassing when they fire off another flare when we are trying to salvage the game after going 2-1 down.
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Rowley ?
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The lack of stewards didn't look too good tonight
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They brought their own in. I noticed two swigging from cans just after the half time whistle, and shortly after one hiding a can of Stella in the inside pocket of his jacket.
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Perhaps a search of bags and person should be done before been allowed in the ground,
But that would require stewards which we seem to be lacking.
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Stewards could do nothing tonight. Allowing the stewards to walk out with no real back up plan was always gonna bite us on the arse at some point
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Very good question. Also, even more embarrassing when they fire off another flare when we are trying to salvage the game after going 2-1 down.
There's a bucket of sand (mostly full of water) in the corner of the pop side and the chequers end. Like most things over that side its obviously been forgotten about, but I think it was left there after the Grimbsy game with the repeated smoke bomb throwing.
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They seem to be 15-17 year olds attached to MUFC. After the game, they made their way towards the away end presumably to hassle the away fans. During the game though vocal, they did the club no favours whatsoever, throwing 3 flares in total and generally misbehaving. I am worried that they are going to bring down our fans good reputation and I was not happy that the ref got involved with the flares towards the end of the game. We could end up being fined, and there is no way I want our club dragged down by a few misbehaving teenagers - there were about 12-20 of them, not regulars.
Disappointed with both the result today, we threw that game away in the last few minutes and I saw it coming as time went on.
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They looked like they were the same group who attached themselves to the club a couple of years ago and caused issues then. Tonight was poor, kids clearly under 18 openly drinking bottles of bud. They left a load of them at half time in the corner of the popular side. Add in at least one smoking weed and three smoke bombs. Finally did anyone else see most of them at the end of the game gather outside the Hale End gate and try to start on some Warrington fans. Embarrassing for the club but hopefully the club will be better prepared when they turn up again.
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The young lads were at moss lane last season but the stewards kept them in check so they got bored and did not come back .they now know alty have no stewards so have decided to latch on to the club again
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Stewards could do nothing tonight. Allowing the stewards to walk out with no real back up plan was always gonna bite us on the arse at some point
Agreed. Seen nothing since the mass exodus to suggest we would be equipped to deal with something should it arise, and there you go.
That was embarrassing and incredibly tedious, almost had to take myself to the main stand in the second half.
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The club's great name is in a precarious position as it is, without a load of idiots turning up and disguising themselves as Alty fans because they know they'll get away with murder.
I'm a massive advocate for young lads coming along and making noise but they've got to do so in a way that's constructive alongside the usual home fans. They either need reigning in big time or banning.
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I noticed that the majority of the fans were not the real Alty fans tonight just a gang of spotty little feral kids trying to (and failing to act hard). The flares were a fkn joke...
if this club wants to be seen to be a proper run outfit then lets get some proper Stewarding, get the turnstiles open properly and stop letting these tossers have access to beer. if it means paying folk to carry out these duties then so be it.
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They seem to be 15-17 year olds attached to MUFC. After the game, they made their way towards the away end presumably to hassle the away fans. During the game though vocal, they did the club no favours whatsoever, throwing 3 flares in total and generally misbehaving. I am worried that they are going to bring down our fans good reputation and I was not happy that the ref got involved with the flares towards the end of the game. We could end up being fined, and there is no way I want our club dragged down by a few misbehaving teenagers - there were about 12-20 of them, not regulars.
Disappointed with both the result today, we threw that game away in the last few minutes and I saw it coming as time went on.
Could the ones causing the strava be from FC Moston Utd?
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The young kids were at moss lane last season trying it on but the stewards who were at alty last season kept them in check by following them round ground were ever they went also took any drink or flares off them they got bored off being singled out so did not come back . They now no the stewards have left so know they can do what ever they want in the ground.it will happen again.also the ref will report back to the fa what happened last night as will the refs assessor who was Sat in the stand.Philip
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I noticed that the majority of the fans were not the real Alty fans tonight just a gang of spotty little feral kids trying to (and failing to act hard). The flares were a fkn joke...
]if this club wants to be seen to be a proper run outfit then lets get some proper Stewarding, get the turnstiles open properly and stop letting these tossers have access to beer. if it means paying folk to carry out these duties then so be it.
Imagine.
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They’re local kids, some where at the Away tie. They just need reigning in a bit
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They’re local kids, some where at the Away tie. They just need reigning in a bit
Who's going to reign them in Pete? We have no stewards because they all walked out (in an incident that still hasn't been thoroughly explained) and the vocal section of our home fanbase has been decimated for reasons well documented.
It was easier to win kids over and get them hooked when we were hosting the likes of Tranmere and Bristol Rovers, and they'd come to Moss Lane to see an established core support getting behind the team in their way. We've plummeted to joke football in a joke league so is it any real surprise that lads have turned up and treated us as a bit of a joke? We are one.
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Good to see some local lads taking an interest as long as no harm done , up the Alty!!!!
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Good to see some local lads taking an interest as long as no harm done , up the Alty!!!!
Harm could be done if sanctions are taken against us if referees report that games are delayed because of flares being thrown on the pitch.
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Oh god not more sanctions..... :D
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One reason i don't go to games anymore i don't feel safe in that ground if anything happens due to lack of trained people.
This day and age you can't mess about with safety you need to be at the top maybe only a non league game but 400 plus people
is seen as an easy target.
If the ref noticed the flares etc he as to report them so that will be a fine for the Club.
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Really? All credit to the volunteers but they never made me feel particularly safe.
Presumably you don't go to away games either just in case they haven't got any stewards.
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Really? All credit to the volunteers but they never made me feel particularly safe.
Presumably you don't go to away games either just in case they haven't got any stewards.
In fairness, prior to this season we've hosted numerous teams with an 'element' without much if any trouble, so regardless of our stewards being volunteers we have been kept safe in the past. Last night was the third instance of poor crowd management this season, two of which have put fans in danger.
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Presumably you don't go to away games either just in case they haven't got any stewards.
I don't go to any Altrincham games as i now work as a Match day manager for a Stewarding company at a Premiership and Championship club.
I lead a team of any thing from 30-60 Stewards.
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Really? All credit to the volunteers but they never made me feel particularly safe.
Presumably you don't go to away games either just in case they haven't got any stewards.
In fairness, prior to this season we've hosted numerous teams with an 'element' without much if any trouble, so regardless of our stewards being volunteers we have been kept safe in the past. Last night was the third instance of poor crowd management this season, two of which have put fans in danger.
Spot on
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A flare went onto the pitch, a few lads sang the 12 days of Cantona after a few too many beers. Bid deal. Nothing really happened.
If it wasn't for the noise they created then Moss Lane would be quieter than a library.
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A flare went onto the pitch, a few lads sang the 12 days of Cantona after a few too many beers. Bid deal. Nothing really happened.
If it wasn't for the noise they created then Moss Lane would be quieter than a library.
Thats a pretty big deal to be fair...
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A flare went onto the pitch, a few lads sang the 12 days of Cantona after a few too many beers. Bid deal. Nothing really happened.
If it wasn't for the noise they created then Moss Lane would be quieter than a library.
They through a flare onto the pitch I would consider that a big deal
But to be honest its more embarrassing than anything else. We don't want people singing about united or anti liverpool or city songs
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The chief steward witnessed them lighting flare after flare and then after each incident proceed to stand at a completely different end of the ground with no steward even close to them. Bizarre .
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And they also tried to kick off with Warrington fans after the game outside the ground. They came to the game last night to get drunk and to see if they could kick things off
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Presumably you don't go to away games either just in case they haven't got any stewards.
I don't go to any Altrincham games as i now work as a Match day manager for a Stewarding company at a Premiership and Championship club.
I lead a team of any thing from 30-60 Stewards.
So in fact your non-attendance is not because you are worried about there being no stewards. Why then did you imply it was?
Just for the record, one of the stewards in attendance last night did eject someone from the ground.
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These annoying gits also threw beer over everyone unfortunate to be stood directly in front of them in addition to the flares which could cost the club in a fine they are an unwelcome potentially dangerous element.
Please go and support fcum kids...
And please can the board sort out the completely inadequate stewarding problem caused by rowley alienating the previous well qualified team of dedicated stewards...
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Presumably you don't go to away games either just in case they haven't got any stewards.
I don't go to any Altrincham games as i now work as a Match day manager for a Stewarding company at a Premiership and Championship club.
I lead a team of any thing from 30-60 Stewards.
So in fact your non-attendance is not because you are worried about there being no stewards. Why then did you imply it was?
Just for the record, one of the stewards in attendance last night did eject someone from the ground.
Tbf he did say one of the reasons,not the only reason.
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Presumably you don't go to away games either just in case they haven't got any stewards.
I don't go to any Altrincham games as i now work as a Match day manager for a Stewarding company at a Premiership and Championship club.
I lead a team of any thing from 30-60 Stewards.
So in fact your non-attendance is not because you are worried about there being no stewards. Why then did you imply it was?
Just for the record, one of the stewards in attendance last night did eject someone from the ground.
I stand with what i said i have attended a couple of matches since they got rid of most of the stewards.
As someone who first bought recognised training in for the stewards in saddens me to see how backwards the club has gone.
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Presumably you don't go to away games either just in case they haven't got any stewards.
I don't go to any Altrincham games as i now work as a Match day manager for a Stewarding company at a Premiership and Championship club.
I lead a team of any thing from 30-60 Stewards.
So in fact your non-attendance is not because you are worried about there being no stewards. Why then did you imply it was?
Just for the record, one of the stewards in attendance last night did eject someone from the ground.
I stand with what i said i have attended a couple of matches since they got rid of most of the stewards.
As someone who first bought recognised training in for the stewards in saddens me to see how backwards the club has gone.
I seemed to have missed what happened with this. Why did the club get rid of the stewards?
Thanks
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Mr Rowley asked for a meeting with all the stewards after a alty home game . Before that meeting Mr Rowley had a word with the chief steward and told her to stand down from her duties immediately saying he was doing this because of her health issues he then turned to the assistant chief steward and told him to stand down from his position but to stay as a steward which was not acceptable to him. He then told the stewards what he had done and said I want a happy team here at alty. The stewards then had a meeting which was agreed the majority of the team would be leaving with the chief steward and assistant steward . At this moment alty has a chief steward who is not qualified and does not want to do on Tuesday I did feel sorry for him he was on a losser from the word go because he had six stewards with him that did not know what to do . The ground needs a minimum of fourteen stewards to man all six gates and the eight pitch side gates which is not happening.
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Mr Rowley asked for a meeting with all the stewards after a alty home game . Before that meeting Mr Rowley had a word with the chief steward and told her to stand down from her duties immediately saying he was doing this because of her health issues he then turned to the assistant chief steward and told him to stand down from his position but to stay as a steward which was not acceptable to him. He then told the stewards what he had done and said I want a happy team here at alty. The stewards then had a meeting which was agreed the majority of the team would be leaving with the chief steward and assistant steward . At this moment alty has a chief steward who is not qualified and does not want to do on Tuesday I did feel sorry for him he was on a losser from the word go because he had six stewards with him that did not know what to do . The ground needs a minimum of fourteen stewards to man all six gates and the eight pitch side gates which is not happening.
Is the minimum 14 stewards a legal requirement or is that just your opinion that we need that many? I think it's disgusting the way the stewarding team were treated by the club btw.
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Yes for safety reasons.
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As far as I can see there is a chunk of the story missing here in terms of why the assistant chief steward was facing demotion. It may be that is not something that ought to be in the public domain but whatever the reason the rest of the stewards showed where their loyalty lay.
I was suprised at the behaviour of the few on Tuesday night although given the language they were churning out and the fact they didn't sing any Alty songs I should have guessed that they were imposters. Hopefully they'll be back to supporting a proper club by Saturday and everyone else can focus on what is happening on the pitch.
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Yes for safety reasons.
Surely that means the club is breaking safety regulations by hosting a game with less than 14 stewards in place then?
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Mr Rowley asked for a meeting with all the stewards after a alty home game . Before that meeting Mr Rowley had a word with the chief steward and told her to stand down from her duties immediately saying he was doing this because of her health issues he then turned to the assistant chief steward and told him to stand down from his position but to stay as a steward which was not acceptable to him. He then told the stewards what he had done and said I want a happy team here at alty. The stewards then had a meeting which was agreed the majority of the team would be leaving with the chief steward and assistant steward . At this moment alty has a chief steward who is not qualified and does not want to do on Tuesday I did feel sorry for him he was on a losser from the word go because he had six stewards with him that did not know what to do . The ground needs a minimum of fourteen stewards to man all six gates and the eight pitch side gates which is not happening.
Is the minimum 14 stewards a legal requirement or is that just your opinion that we need that many? I think it's disgusting the way the stewarding team were treated by the club btw.
The pitch side gates are new and probably not been included in the Clubs Safety procedures manual which when i was asked to come back last year i had a look at which hadn't been updated since 2011 when i last did it.
All exits gates should be manned during a game one to stop people opening them to let their mates in, The other in case a ground evacuation is required for whatever reason.
Any steward on a exit gate should not be involved in any other duties.
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Cheers Darren plus no ground regulations outside turnstile which club have been told about
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Just doesn't improve does it ?
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Firstly they sang plenty of alty chants, it seems you may have selective hearing sir. New to the forum, veteran of alty games. I have seen some of these lads at a number of games and the regular ones seem like a good natured, lively bunch. However I saw some new faces yesterday around the sides of that main group and they seemed to be causing the most trouble to me. You gents seem to be forgetting you were that age as well and that lad that got kicked out certainly surprises me as I have seen him in the past supporting the club plenty and in a positive way. On the other hand, the singing of other teams chants was embarrassing and hopefully was a one off and once again seemed those newer boys. However, whoever mentioned the jeering of away fans being a negative thing that's a joke, especially when it's a local rival opposite ends winding each other up is all part the game!
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Think you are maybe glossing over some things. 1. They were openly drinking bottles of bud with no action by stewards, presumably this is against ground regulations?. 2. Most of them after the game went out of the Golf Rd end and round to the Hale End to try and kick off with Warrington fans. As when they first appeared a couple of years ago their main reason for coming to Moss Lane is to try and start fights with away fans 3. They let off smoke bombs which are against ground regulations. Even letting one off after Warrington went ahead causing the game to be delayed for a couple of mins, not sure any proper Alty fan would do that
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Wasn’t there on Tuesday so can’t comment, but did no-one think to have a word with these lads about the futility of drinking Bud?
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Wasn’t there on Tuesday so can’t comment, but did no-one think to have a word with these lads about the futility of drinking Bud?
ha ha you win
Merry Christmas
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I Think it's already a lost cause when it comes to their drink of choice.
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You say 'they' as if they are are responsible for all their friends actions, there is definitely some true alty fans in there.
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By all accounts some stockport county stewards will be on duty at alty today.
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Firstly they sang plenty of alty chants, it seems you may have selective hearing sir. New to the forum, veteran of alty games. I have seen some of these lads at a number of games and the regular ones seem like a good natured, lively bunch. However I saw some new faces yesterday around the sides of that main group and they seemed to be causing the most trouble to me. You gents seem to be forgetting you were that age as well and that lad that got kicked out certainly surprises me as I have seen him in the past supporting the club plenty and in a positive way. On the other hand, the singing of other teams chants was embarrassing and hopefully was a one off and once again seemed those newer boys. However, whoever mentioned the jeering of away fans being a negative thing that's a joke, especially when it's a local rival opposite ends winding each other up is all part the game!
They're not a local rival.
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From what I have seen they shoukd have some encouragement off other fans, as without them moss lane would have been extremely quiet in an important game. As well as this someone needs just to say to leave the chants about other clubs and to not try to aggravate the referee by throwing flares onto the pitch.
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Firstly they sang plenty of alty chants, it seems you may have selective hearing sir. New to the forum, veteran of alty games. I have seen some of these lads at a number of games and the regular ones seem like a good natured, lively bunch. However I saw some new faces yesterday around the sides of that main group and they seemed to be causing the most trouble to me. You gents seem to be forgetting you were that age as well and that lad that got kicked out certainly surprises me as I have seen him in the past supporting the club plenty and in a positive way. On the other hand, the singing of other teams chants was embarrassing and hopefully was a one off and once again seemed those newer boys. However, whoever mentioned the jeering of away fans being a negative thing that's a joke, especially when it's a local rival opposite ends winding each other up is all part the game!
They're not a local rival.
Whatever you want to call them mate
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Firstly they sang plenty of alty chants, it seems you may have selective hearing sir. New to the forum, veteran of alty games. I have seen some of these lads at a number of games and the regular ones seem like a good natured, lively bunch. However I saw some new faces yesterday around the sides of that main group and they seemed to be causing the most trouble to me. You gents seem to be forgetting you were that age as well and that lad that got kicked out certainly surprises me as I have seen him in the past supporting the club plenty and in a positive way. On the other hand, the singing of other teams chants was embarrassing and hopefully was a one off and once again seemed those newer boys. However, whoever mentioned the jeering of away fans being a negative thing that's a joke, especially when it's a local rival opposite ends winding each other up is all part the game!
They're not a local rival.
Whatever you want to call them mate
I don't get why you'd sing such hatred about a club that have we have no rivalry with.
We've the same level of contempt for them as we do for every pub outfit we play.
What's next? A rivalry with Marine?
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If they sang about alty and hating Macc/Vics, rather than Liverpool and Leeds. They'd be a welcome addition (pissed or not)
Just save the flares for a meaningful game,
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Completely agree with that to be fair they joined in with both so next time they come along I'll try remind them to keep it Alti.
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Sounds fair to me.
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Completely agree with that to be fair they joined in with both so next time they come along I'll try remind them to keep it Alti.
Alty would be better
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Completely agree with that to be fair they joined in with both so next time they come along I'll try remind them to keep it Alti.
Alty would be better
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Aldi would be cheaper ;D
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By all accounts some stockport county stewards will be on duty at alty today.
Was it true? So get rid of clubs stewards who they were paying £10 per game to save cost, So now they are paying triple this to bring in stewards
from another club doesn't make sense to me.................
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By all accounts some stockport county stewards will be on duty at alty today.
Was it true? So get rid of clubs stewards who they were paying £10 per game to save cost, So now they are paying triple this to bring in stewards
from another club doesn't make sense to me.................
I definitely saw at least one steward in a Stockport County jacket.
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Three stewards at alty stockport chief steward his assistant and one more . Eight former alty stewards were at Curzon v stockport game stewarding that game.
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£10 is a good deal when you add in the money the majority save in paying in.
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By all accounts some stockport county stewards will be on duty at alty today.
Was it true? So get rid of clubs stewards who they were paying £10 per game to save cost, So now they are paying triple this to bring in stewards
from another club doesn't make sense to me.................
I definitely saw at least one steward in a Stockport County jacket.
So pay more for less as i said doesn't make sense to me.
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I'm sure it doesn't make sense to anyone but it's just the way things have played out.
We're definitely going through a transitional season this year.
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But to be honest its more embarrassing than anything else. We don't want people singing about united or anti liverpool or city songs
Sounds fair enough to me.
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They looked like they were the same group who attached themselves to the club a couple of years ago and caused issues then. Tonight was poor, kids clearly under 18 openly drinking bottles of bud. They left a load of them at half time in the corner of the popular side. Add in at least one smoking weed and three smoke bombs. Finally did anyone else see most of them at the end of the game gather outside the Hale End gate and try to start on some Warrington fans. Embarrassing for the club but hopefully the club will be better prepared when they turn up again.
Ah yes, we could all do with a little common sensimilla.
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I'm sure alty will recruit the stockport stewards again at £35 a man and £5 petrol money.
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Dont get on to well with the Stockport stewards, after blagging our way into the home end at half time for ale the first timer we played the a few years back we were sussed and made to stay in the Stockport end with their fans who luckily were sound, happy days , :D
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TBH if you want these knobheads removed .myself and a few associates could sort the situation out.