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Title: What a load of rubbish
Post by: VofD on December 19, 2017, 09:43:21 PM
Alty 1 - 2 Warrington  >:( >:(

Title: Re: What a load of rubbish
Post by: Alty Bri on December 19, 2017, 09:45:56 PM
Our much celebrated forward line is once again ineffective against a quality, well-organised defence.
Title: Re: What a load of rubbish
Post by: oneedham on December 19, 2017, 10:00:54 PM
I keep saying but Poole doesn't do enough in games and is too deep.
Thompson's kicking is absolutely terrible,his body positioning is bizarre. Should have stayed on his line for the first goal.
Harrop keeps playing well in midfield even though he was at fault for the second goal.
Get Densmore back at RB. That's two open nets Bembo-Leta has missed.
I know we conceded two late goals but I do prefer Jones and Harrison.
I would play Hancock number 10 for a few games.
Moult has looked sluggish in the last two games but still wins a lot of headers.
Sean Williams has stood out in the three games against Warrington. A decent player who is full of energy, rarely makes a mistake. I liked him at Alty and should have been given more time.
Title: Re: What a load of rubbish
Post by: One Foot in the Grave on December 19, 2017, 10:20:47 PM
Downright poor. Once we scored  (great strike from Hulme) we seemed to think we'd done the job and dropped deeper.

On the 13th.January the league may rearrange a fixture. The options are Barwell at home or Stafford away.
Title: Re: What a load of rubbish
Post by: Happy clapper on December 19, 2017, 10:26:31 PM
As soon as we started to drop back we looked in trouble. Not sure if it was just us thinking we had won it or if they just started to play out of their skins but up until we scored there was only one team in it

Good luck to them in the next round
Title: Re: What a load of rubbish
Post by: Hale Alty on December 19, 2017, 10:27:34 PM
Big mistake sitting back on 1-0. Gave them too much time with the ball, and worringly they looked a lot fitter at the end. Don't like losing, and i'm sure the club would have liked the money, but let them have the exhausting trip to Kent and hope they get a replay, while our players have less games and hopefully can work on their fitness.
Title: Re: What a load of rubbish
Post by: Sale Holmfield on December 19, 2017, 10:35:17 PM
On past experience the league will rearrange a fixture if it possibly can, even if it means moving an existing Saturday fixture, so I expect us to have a game.

Tonight, Warrington were worthy winners for their second half performance, and I genuinely wish them well against Ebbsfleet, as well as knowing that the unbeaten run would eventually come to an end, but the way it did was so disappointing.

Obviously, the focus on the pitch now has to be to bounce back on Saturday.
Title: Re: What a load of rubbish
Post by: robininstockport on December 19, 2017, 10:58:31 PM
I keep saying but Poole doesn't do enough in games and is too deep.
Thompson's kicking is absolutely terrible,his body positioning is bizarre. Should have stayed on his line for the first goal.
Harrop keeps playing well in midfield even though he was at fault for the second goal.
Get Densmore back at RB. That's two open nets Bembo-Leta has missed.
I know we conceded two late goals but I do prefer Jones and Harrison.
I would play Hancock number 10 for a few games.
Moult has looked sluggish in the last two games but still wins a lot of headers.
Sean Williams has stood out in the three games against Warrington. A decent player who is full of energy, rarely makes a mistake. I liked him at Alty and should have been given more time.

I agree with most of this, but Jones in front Harrison? Not for me.

And I can't really have a go a Bembo-Leta for missing another sitter.

Although I'm not too arsed about not going to play ebbsfleet tonight has posed much bigger worries.
The pitch is dreadful in certain areas, if we get rain between now and Saturday I don't hold out much hope for the game to be on

We have no plan B. In the 3 games against Warrington we've created very little and if it wasn't for genuine bit of class from Hulme we wouldn't have scored in 4.5 hours of football, and their keeper is wank.

Huge game (if on) Saturday
Title: Re: What a load of rubbish
Post by: jhcorbett on December 19, 2017, 11:13:12 PM
Mostly bilge from both sides to be fair, but Warrington upped it late on and clearly wanted it more at the end. That is a bit of a disgrace from Alty's point of view.

Is it true that the squad went off to Dublin for a weekender recently? (If so it seems a very bad idea).

Kids behind the goal second half were very tedious in a small crowd.
Title: Re: What a load of rubbish
Post by: Sarf London Alty on December 19, 2017, 11:38:24 PM
Disappointing though it is getting knocked out of the Trophy by a side we’d have played our reserves against 5 years ago I think there needs to be a sense of perspective. Number 1 the season above all else is getting out of this league. Warrington are welcome to go and lose 2-1 in front of 850 standing on that open terrace at the arse end of the Thames estuary in mid-January, hopefully we’ll have a league game to focus on that day instead. Back to the real business on Saturday and I’m confident we’ll get a result which will set us up nicely for Christmas. Top on Christmas Day will do me.
Title: Re: What a load of rubbish
Post by: oneedham on December 20, 2017, 06:53:05 AM
I keep saying but Poole doesn't do enough in games and is too deep.
Thompson's kicking is absolutely terrible,his body positioning is bizarre. Should have stayed on his line for the first goal.
Harrop keeps playing well in midfield even though he was at fault for the second goal.
Get Densmore back at RB. That's two open nets Bembo-Leta has missed.
I know we conceded two late goals but I do prefer Jones and Harrison.
I would play Hancock number 10 for a few games.
Moult has looked sluggish in the last two games but still wins a lot of headers.
Sean Williams has stood out in the three games against Warrington. A decent player who is full of energy, rarely makes a mistake. I liked him at Alty and should have been given more time.

I agree with most of this, but Jones in front Harrison? Not for me.

And I can't really have a go a Bembo-Leta for missing another sitter.

Although I'm not too arsed about not going to play ebbsfleet tonight has posed much bigger worries.
The pitch is dreadful in certain areas, if we get rain between now and Saturday I don't hold out much hope for the game to be on

We have no plan B. In the 3 games against Warrington we've created very little and if it wasn't for genuine bit of class from Hulme we wouldn't have scored in 4.5 hours of football, and their keeper is wank.

Huge game (if on) Saturday

You may have read it wrong. I mean Jones and Harrison as our pairing. Harrison is our best centre back by a distance,top defender at this level.
Title: Re: What a load of rubbish
Post by: Toff Apple on December 20, 2017, 07:53:54 AM
Huge overreaction to our first defeat for ages, 2 goals in the last 5 mins and missed a sitter at the end, its hardly the end of the world.  It does seem to me that there are some who must have been gutted we kept winning for so long, must have been bursting to post.
Title: Re: What a load of rubbish
Post by: Bob on December 20, 2017, 07:57:24 AM
Huge overreaction to our first defeat for ages, 2 goals in the last 5 mins and missed a sitter at the end, its hardly the end of the world.  It does seem to me that there are some who must have been gutted we kept winning for so long, must have been bursting to post.


Totally agree.
Title: Re: What a load of rubbish
Post by: Alty Dave on December 20, 2017, 07:58:33 AM
I think it is clear from last night that the league is the priority as it should be, hence the rotation.

Thought both teams were poor overall. Hitting the post twice in the final minutes sums up the evening really. Think they had 2 shots on goal all evening, we certainly had more. There substitutions made a difference ours did not, they wanted it more as you could see from looking at the dugouts.

Hopefully on Saturday it will be back to business as usual.

Over the pitch, the grass is laid on a sand blinding, so if it rains then it cuts up easily, becomes slippy etc. Drainage is what it is, the culvert by the allotments which drains the pitch water away looked blocked when I walked down there the other week and maybe backing the water up a bit?
Title: Re: What a load of rubbish
Post by: AFC56 on December 20, 2017, 08:41:36 AM
Huge overreaction to our first defeat for ages, 2 goals in the last 5 mins and missed a sitter at the end, its hardly the end of the world.  It does seem to me that there are some who must have been gutted we kept winning for so long, must have been bursting to post.


I agree. Let's be fair, our form recently has been excellent, hence why we sit top of the league. Last night we never got going, and only Hulme performed anywhere near their capabilities. Let's hope this defeat refocuses the group and we can go on another run of wins.
Still believe we need a central midfielder , and I do expect more from James Poole. Talented player but isn't influencing the matches like I had thought he would.
Title: Re: What a load of rubbish
Post by: Mrs Warbouys on December 20, 2017, 09:08:55 AM
Agree, complete over reaction. I’ve spent enough miserable afternoons out at gravesend & northfleet thanks. The 6 grand would have come in handy, but let’s refocus and go again on Saturday. As for the evenings other incidents, not a great surprise after we’ve been blagging it for so long. This why we need investment desperately, you can’t  rely on goodwill for everything if you want to be a proper football club once more.
Title: Re: What a load of rubbish
Post by: robininstockport on December 20, 2017, 09:37:57 AM

You may have read it wrong. I mean Jones and Harrison as our pairing. Harrison is our best centre back by a distance,top defender at this level.

Yes I had misread it (must have been my teary eyes).  Totally agree about Harrison. I like Jones, but don't think he's as good as Hanningan.

Title: Re: What a load of rubbish
Post by: andrewflynn on December 20, 2017, 10:55:59 AM
Downright poor. Once we scored  (great strike from Hulme) we seemed to think we'd done the job and dropped deeper.

On the 13th.January the league may rearrange a fixture. The options are Barwell at home or Stafford away.

We've got Workington at home.
Title: Re: What a load of rubbish
Post by: andrewflynn on December 20, 2017, 10:56:56 AM
Huge overreaction to our first defeat for ages, 2 goals in the last 5 mins and missed a sitter at the end, its hardly the end of the world.  It does seem to me that there are some who must have been gutted we kept winning for so long, must have been bursting to post.

Agreed. Back to business Saturday.
Title: Re: What a load of rubbish
Post by: Sale Holmfield on December 20, 2017, 12:25:05 PM
Downright poor. Once we scored  (great strike from Hulme) we seemed to think we'd done the job and dropped deeper.

On the 13th.January the league may rearrange a fixture. The options are Barwell at home or Stafford away.

We've got Workington at home.

Workington are away at Weston-Super-Mare in the Trophy that day.
Title: Re: What a load of rubbish
Post by: andrewflynn on December 20, 2017, 12:26:43 PM
Downright poor. Once we scored  (great strike from Hulme) we seemed to think we'd done the job and dropped deeper.

On the 13th.January the league may rearrange a fixture. The options are Barwell at home or Stafford away.

We've got Workington at home.

Workington are away at Weston-Super-Mare in the Trophy that day.

Of course! I forgot they beat Hartlepool.
Title: Re: What a load of rubbish
Post by: roytonmike on December 20, 2017, 04:34:15 PM
Downright poor. Once we scored  (great strike from Hulme) we seemed to think we'd done the job and dropped deeper.
On the 13th.January the league may rearrange a fixture. The options are Barwell at home or Stafford away.
Of the two I'd prefer Stafford away. There would be a certain logic in bringing that one forward as Stafford are still in the League Cup & March 10th (the date currently set for that game) is designated for League Cup semi-finals - mind you, it seems to me that logic doesn't necessarily play any part in Evo-Stik League fixture "planning". Moving Barwell forward from mid-April has far less reason behind it & at the moment we might be better served not playing at home, given the state of the pitch & particularly the surrounds last time I saw it.
(Can't comment on last night as I wasn't there!)
Title: Re: What a load of rubbish
Post by: Is this it? on December 21, 2017, 12:16:40 AM
Disappointed to go out of the trophy but, hopefully, serves as a wake up call to those who thought we had things sewn up, that the competition we face means that this league is far from won.  While some will say that being able to concentrate only on the league is a good thing, I tend towards wanting to win every match regardless as I believe it builds momentum.  Saturday's match now feels as though there is more riding on it and should things not go our way, it won't be long before doubts are raised.  Reading some of the comments here, I do worry why it is that we tend to sit back on the slimmest of leads.