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Title: Kidderminster - Match Thread
Post by: Mrs Warbouys on September 11, 2019, 10:52:23 AM
Any news on the injuries? Hoping we go there with three points in mind. They’ve had as mixed a start as we have. For those travelling by train, one thing worth considering is a West Midlands day ranger. It covers you from Crewe or stoke down to Kidderminster and anywhere in between all day for £27. It can only be purchased at a manned station though, any manned station but not online or at a ticket machine

http://www.railrover.org/pages/west-midlands-day-ranger.html
Title: Re: Kidderminster - Match Thread
Post by: robininstockport on September 11, 2019, 12:29:03 PM
Ceesay defo out, Hampson must be a major doubt, Hannigan straight back in.

Well concede a pen and/or get a red.

Kidderminster 2-3 Alty
Title: Re: Kidderminster - Match Thread
Post by: One Foot in the Grave on September 11, 2019, 01:23:18 PM
Kidderminster are not as big a club as they think they are, and are clearly not at their best right now. Reported locally today that there are cash flow problems yet again - academy coaches not fully paid.

Time to lay our bogey.

2-1 Alty (Hancock, Hemmings)

Attendance 1234

All cottage pie in visitors section sold out before half time.
Title: Re: Kidderminster - Match Thread
Post by: Paul Cain's Chip Pan on September 11, 2019, 03:11:45 PM
I hope we put on a good display and win 2-1, but I fear it will be our regulation 3-1 defeat at Aggborough.
Title: Re: Kidderminster - Match Thread
Post by: Sale Holmfield on September 11, 2019, 10:53:40 PM
Besides their cashflow problems mentioned above, Kidderminster's regular goalkeeper is out, and their home record is even worse than our away record, so it could hardly be a better time to play them.
I am never optimistic going to Aggborough, but if we can play as well we did there last season, we surely can't lose again.
Title: Re: Kidderminster - Match Thread
Post by: Mrs Warbouys on September 12, 2019, 10:48:07 AM
They’ve lost one of their on loan defenders to injury also. There won’t be a better time to record a win at Kidderminster. I was at the last one in 94 and seen plenty of poor results since

https://www.kidderminstershuttle.co.uk/sport/17896104.harriers-boss-pemberton-hit-double-injury-blow/
Title: Re: Kidderminster - Match Thread
Post by: HashtagAlty on September 12, 2019, 11:29:44 AM
They’ve lost one of their on loan defenders to injury also. There won’t be a better time to record a win at Kidderminster. I was at the last one in 94 and seen plenty of poor results since

https://www.kidderminstershuttle.co.uk/sport/17896104.harriers-boss-pemberton-hit-double-injury-blow/

League win. Best them in cup 1-0.
Title: Re: Kidderminster - Match Thread
Post by: Mrs Warbouys on September 12, 2019, 09:47:05 PM
Think there was a trophy win also possible. I did mean league win
Title: Re: Kidderminster - Match Thread
Post by: robininstockport on September 12, 2019, 10:54:58 PM
Think there was a trophy win also possible. I did mean league win

Didn't reeves score early in the trophy.? Generally unforgettable game if I remember
Title: Re: Kidderminster - Match Thread
Post by: Timperley The Best on September 14, 2019, 04:39:59 PM
The pattern is good at home and poor away mid table at this rate
Title: Re: Kidderminster - Match Thread
Post by: Sarf London Alty on September 15, 2019, 09:47:48 AM
Well that was woeful. No real excuses, weather and the pitch both perfect and playing a team who at the start were clearly low on confidence too. I’ve now seen York, Southport and Kiddy and seen us play progressively worse each time. Whatever it is that is happening to us away from home PP & NS really need to work it out this week because the Cup is so important. Only TT & Hemmings for me emerged with any real credit.

On a side note the pub in the train station, absolutely superb. Should have stayed in there.
Title: Re: Kidderminster - Match Thread
Post by: distancetraveller on September 15, 2019, 10:20:10 AM
Another woeful display at Kiddy. Why oh why does PP insist on pissing about passing it back and forward along the back. It's pretty obvious the team aren't much good at doing that....

No plan B

Mid table mediocrity !!!!!

We needed more fighting spirit in the middle of the park yesterday ...

Connor Hampson impressed...
Title: Re: Kidderminster - Match Thread
Post by: Mrs Warbouys on September 15, 2019, 10:44:09 AM
It’s fairly obvious teams are pressing us more and higher up the pitch. Nothing to do with kits. We missed ceesay yesterday because they doubled up on JJ and we had little in terms of outlet and Jordan Hulme was pretty isolated. Again we should have been facing ten men for most of the game as awful challenges went unpunished or received the wrong colour card. With Branson going we need to draft someone in even on loan that can give us more presence in the middle
of the park and distribute the ball. The passing yesterday much like at Southport was very very poor. The lads need to anticipate that they will get harried more this season and adapt accordingly.
Title: Re: Kidderminster - Match Thread
Post by: Timperley The Best on September 15, 2019, 10:57:54 AM
Midfielder and right back priorities imo
Title: Re: Kidderminster - Match Thread
Post by: RageAgainstTheFirstTeam on September 15, 2019, 11:26:32 AM
If we're having such problems at right back and Densmore can't command a place in the starting line up, is it time to let him go and get a replacement in? I'm not sure if we're just keeping him around as a luxury this point.

I don't actually know by the way, just asking. I've seen one game this season and Dens didn't play so I've got no idea.
Title: Re: Kidderminster - Match Thread
Post by: Timperley The Best on September 15, 2019, 11:36:23 AM
White is a left back,Richman a midfielder and densmore has been used  rarely not sure why.
Title: Re: Kidderminster - Match Thread
Post by: roytonmike on September 15, 2019, 04:42:53 PM
The really worrying part of yesterday's debacle was that we made a VERY average Kidderminster side look competent. The degree to which Richman was missed in midfield is frightening - nobody else seemed able to put a foot in, make a real challenge for the ball, or simply compete. The way Simon plays means he's going to get some yellow cards in this league, particularly away from home, and might get two in a game as happened recently, but it's a risk we have to take in my view. Far too often we passed the ball out of play, or to red shirts, and Thompson's kicking from hand or from ground tends to test the resilience of stand seats or the roof more often than that of opposing defenders. On the plus side, Hemmings showed again that he has real quality, and at least the management have got the youth team keeper registered so we can have the essential cover on the bench. I'll be at Chester next Saturday - I don't like to miss Cup-ties & the walk alongside the canal is pleasant - but I'm not looking forward to the period between 3-5 p.m. 
Title: Re: Kidderminster - Match Thread
Post by: andrewflynn on September 16, 2019, 09:16:33 AM
When things aren't going your way as a collective team then you need to forget about that, dust yourselves down a bit and start winning your individual battles. From there you may get an inspirational moment, be it a win in a 50/50 from Moult or an individual effort from Hulme that we can all feed off of. Too many of them went hiding unfortunately, which simply wouldn't happen at home. We've had so many fantastic days out away from Moss Lane over the past two seasons but they are quickly becoming very expensive chores.

I must say I'm surprised the substitutions of Hancock and Hulme haven't been mentioned on here. Taking your biggest goal threats off when two goals down looked like a bit of an authority stamping exercise from Phil in my view, as neither appeared to be injured.

Dreading Chester.
Title: Re: Kidderminster - Match Thread
Post by: Alty Bri on September 16, 2019, 01:28:08 PM
Bringing on those subs is sadly becoming a sign of us waving the white flag.
Title: Re: Kidderminster - Match Thread
Post by: hsmith1 on September 16, 2019, 02:56:59 PM
i am surprised that we play a left back at right back and leave Dens out,does not make sense to me
Title: Re: Kidderminster - Match Thread
Post by: One Foot in the Grave on September 16, 2019, 04:02:59 PM
When things aren't going your way as a collective team then you need to forget about that, dust yourselves down a bit and start winning your individual battles. From there you may get an inspirational moment, be it a win in a 50/50 from Moult or an individual effort from Hulme that we can all feed off of. Too many of them went hiding unfortunately, which simply wouldn't happen at home. We've had so many fantastic days out away from Moss Lane over the past two seasons but they are quickly becoming very expensive chores.

I must say I'm surprised the substitutions of Hancock and Hulme haven't been mentioned on here. Taking your biggest goal threats off when two goals down looked like a bit of an authority stamping exercise from Phil in my view, as neither appeared to be injured.

Dreading Chester.

Hancock was having a really poor game. I would have hooked him earlier to be honest. I always feel that if he plays well, then we play well. The reverse seemed to be true on Saturday.
Title: Re: Kidderminster - Match Thread
Post by: roytonmike on September 16, 2019, 04:51:19 PM
On present evidence Hemmings is a far better bet in the no. 10 shirt than Hancock. The latter is lightweight under any sort of challenge and on Saturday was finding the touchline or the opposition more often than his own teammates with passes. Hemmings is robust enough to compete and has a pleasing tendency to pass to members of his own side on a reasonably regular basis - which is more than could be said of quite a number of our players on Saturday. When things are working well for him Hancock can be an excellent player but at the moment it just doesn't seem to be clicking often enough for him; the same could, regrettably, be said of Johnston.
On the question of Densmore - he needs to be given the opportunity to get match sharp. How & where that can happen I don't know - he doesn't seem to feature in the management's thinking other than as a bench-warmer at the moment - but to be a realistic option he needs game time somehow, somewhere.
Title: Re: Kidderminster - Match Thread
Post by: oneedham on September 16, 2019, 05:40:17 PM
On present evidence Hemmings is a far better bet in the no. 10 shirt than Hancock. The latter is lightweight under any sort of challenge and on Saturday was finding the touchline or the opposition more often than his own teammates with passes. Hemmings is robust enough to compete and has a pleasing tendency to pass to members of his own side on a reasonably regular basis - which is more than could be said of quite a number of our players on Saturday. When things are working well for him Hancock can be an excellent player but at the moment it just doesn't seem to be clicking often enough for him; the same could, regrettably, be said of Johnston.
On the question of Densmore - he needs to be given the opportunity to get match sharp. How & where that can happen I don't know - he doesn't seem to feature in the management's thinking other than as a bench-warmer at the moment - but to be a realistic option he needs game time somehow, somewhere.

Bizarre comments about Hancock who, with Hemmings were a class above last home game. He is also returning to match fitness. For me there is 5 players who should always start and they are Hannigan, Hancock, Hemmings, Hulme and Ceesay.
Title: Re: Kidderminster - Match Thread
Post by: Thomas H on September 18, 2019, 03:28:09 PM
On present evidence Hemmings is a far better bet in the no. 10 shirt than Hancock. The latter is lightweight under any sort of challenge and on Saturday was finding the touchline or the opposition more often than his own teammates with passes. Hemmings is robust enough to compete and has a pleasing tendency to pass to members of his own side on a reasonably regular basis - which is more than could be said of quite a number of our players on Saturday. When things are working well for him Hancock can be an excellent player but at the moment it just doesn't seem to be clicking often enough for him; the same could, regrettably, be said of Johnston.
On the question of Densmore - he needs to be given the opportunity to get match sharp. How & where that can happen I don't know - he doesn't seem to feature in the management's thinking other than as a bench-warmer at the moment - but to be a realistic option he needs game time somehow, somewhere.

Bizarre comments about Hancock who, with Hemmings were a class above last home game. He is also returning to match fitness. For me there is 5 players who should always start and they are Hannigan, Hancock, Hemmings, Hulme and Ceesay.

I suspect the poor recruitment during the Summer has caused the kind of statements being made here, Mullarkey played ok against Leamington and should have kept his place, nobody should have their name on the team sheet including Hulme. The other teams are stronger than us this season, so we need strengthening, not putting the same players out. I am sure the manager knows this hence the signing of Hemmings, and Ceesay, but none should be guaranteed a place.
Title: Re: Kidderminster - Match Thread
Post by: Bath Alty on September 19, 2019, 10:40:32 PM
Just seen the full time robins video on youtube and noticed that when their second went in Hampson was still in their half.  how the hell can they score while our full back is still that far forward.  I'm not saying he was worse than anyone else because I wasn't there but there is no way he is ambling back while the opposition break at the end of last season - that attitude is a world away from last season and not acceptable
Title: Re: Kidderminster - Match Thread
Post by: Leon on September 20, 2019, 02:59:26 PM
The second goal was scored just after we switched formation. So Hampson was playing left wing back at that point and looking to push forward. Hannigan was at left back...
Title: Re: Kidderminster - Match Thread
Post by: Bath Alty on September 20, 2019, 07:59:08 PM
Well then PP can share the blame for playing a formation where that was possible!
Title: Re: Kidderminster - Match Thread
Post by: Leon on September 20, 2019, 08:19:22 PM
Quite so. By all accounts, changing the formation at Southport didn’t work and at Kiddie, it led to the team completely falling apart.
Title: Re: Kidderminster - Match Thread
Post by: Silent but Ledley on September 21, 2019, 05:14:26 PM
Well Royton Mike what can you say after the Chester game. Eat them!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! SBL
Title: Re: Kidderminster - Match Thread
Post by: HashtagAlty on September 21, 2019, 08:52:09 PM
Well Royton Mike what can you say after the Chester game. Eat them!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! SBL

His point is still valid regarding the Kiddy game.

Title: Re: Kidderminster - Match Thread
Post by: One Foot in the Grave on September 22, 2019, 07:29:44 AM
Well Royton Mike what can you say after the Chester game. Eat them!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! SBL

His point is still valid regarding the Kiddy game.



And Boston.....and Southport.