www.altyfans.co.uk

General Category => Altrincham FC First Team => Topic started by: robininstockport on October 09, 2019, 12:27:52 PM

Title: Guiseley Match Thread
Post by: robininstockport on October 09, 2019, 12:27:52 PM
Couple of decisions to make, Williams or Richman, Peers or Hulme.

Big game for us, a loss and the table could look very bad, a win and the away monkey is off the back and we're on the up.

Guiseley 1-2 Alty
Title: Re: Guiseley Match Thread
Post by: andrewflynn on October 09, 2019, 03:17:26 PM
Never win there. 1-1.
Title: Re: Guiseley Match Thread
Post by: Mrs Warbouys on October 09, 2019, 03:27:42 PM
Guiseley 4/5
Draw 13/5
Altrincham 13/5
Title: Re: Guiseley Match Thread
Post by: oneedham on October 09, 2019, 08:03:10 PM
Maybe give Hulme a rest to fully recover for the FA Cup clash. Peers was full of energy when he came on.

I would start Richman again.

Play red and white and ditch the grey sh*te.

Title: Re: Guiseley Match Thread
Post by: cheshire cat on October 09, 2019, 08:09:29 PM
Is Ceesay available yet?
Title: Re: Guiseley Match Thread
Post by: One Foot in the Grave on October 09, 2019, 08:26:30 PM
I believe he's out until early November.
Title: Re: Guiseley Match Thread
Post by: MarpleAlty on October 10, 2019, 07:35:48 AM
Maybe give Hulme a rest to fully recover for the FA Cup clash. Peers was full of energy when he came on.

I would start Richman again.

Play red and white and ditch the grey sh*te.


I agree with giving Peers a run - we need to use our squad where we can.

I'm conscious a lot of effort went into that shirt - it looks fabulous imo, but I do genuinely believe there's something in that whole effectiveness of grey kits on the pitch.
Title: Re: Guiseley Match Thread
Post by: HashtagAlty on October 10, 2019, 10:02:09 AM
Maybe give Hulme a rest to fully recover for the FA Cup clash. Peers was full of energy when he came on.

I would start Richman again.

Play red and white and ditch the grey sh*te.


I agree with giving Peers a run - we need to use our squad where we can.

I'm conscious a lot of effort went into that shirt - it looks fabulous imo, but I do genuinely believe there's something in that whole effectiveness of grey kits on the pitch.

Do we have a third kit?
Title: Re: Guiseley Match Thread
Post by: PaulClementsLaments on October 10, 2019, 12:56:50 PM
Maybe give Hulme a rest to fully recover for the FA Cup clash. Peers was full of energy when he came on.

I would start Richman again.

Play red and white and ditch the grey sh*te.


I agree with giving Peers a run - we need to use our squad where we can.

I'm conscious a lot of effort went into that shirt - it looks fabulous imo, but I do genuinely believe there's something in that whole effectiveness of grey kits on the pitch.

Peers gives us a different option in attack - no-one would say he's a better player than Jordan but he does have more pace and gets into the box more.

I'd like us to play in red & white wherever possible!
Title: Re: Guiseley Match Thread
Post by: Nom de plume on October 10, 2019, 03:32:04 PM
Maybe give Hulme a rest to fully recover for the FA Cup clash. Peers was full of energy when he came on.

I would start Richman again.

Play red and white and ditch the grey sh*te.


I agree with giving Peers a run - we need to use our squad where we can.

I'm conscious a lot of effort went into that shirt - it looks fabulous imo, but I do genuinely believe there's something in that whole effectiveness of grey kits on the pitch.

Peers gives us a different option in attack - no-one would say he's a better player than Jordan but he does have more pace and gets into the box more.

I'd like us to play in red & white wherever possible!
And most definitely at Southport
Title: Re: Guiseley Match Thread
Post by: roytonmike on October 10, 2019, 03:35:39 PM
Maybe give Hulme a rest to fully recover for the FA Cup clash. Peers was full of energy when he came on.
I would start Richman again.
Play red and white and ditch the grey sh*te.
I agree with giving Peers a run - we need to use our squad where we can.
I'm conscious a lot of effort went into that shirt - it looks fabulous imo, but I do genuinely believe there's something in that whole effectiveness of grey kits on the pitch.
Peers gives us a different option in attack - no-one would say he's a better player than Jordan but he does have more pace and gets into the box more.
I'd like us to play in red & white wherever possible!
The 'second kit' should in my opinion be a change kit - i.e. only for use when the red & white constitutes a colour clash (incidentally, I was always perfectly happy with the yellow & blue we wore in such circumstances years ago!).
As regards team selection, my personal preferences, assuming full fitness, would be Richman in midfield & Hulme in attack, but I will trust the management's selections whatever they may be.
It's perfectly true that we've never won a competitive match at Nethermoor - but there's always a first time ...
Title: Re: Guiseley Match Thread
Post by: cheshire cat on October 11, 2019, 10:55:13 AM
We should have won last year. We were clearly the best team and scored first only to sit back Their fans were happy to pull it back to a draw and couldn't believe it when they went ahead. We had to go all out to get the equaliser.
Hopefully Parky will remind them about that before kick off.
Title: Re: Guiseley Match Thread
Post by: Mrs Warbouys on October 11, 2019, 11:54:28 AM
We are 18th in the league and Guiseley are in the playoff places. We need to play out strongest available 11.
Title: Re: Guiseley Match Thread
Post by: Jezza on October 11, 2019, 12:33:47 PM
Peers did look amazingly sharp and caused more problems for Halesowen defence but then again the Halesowen defence were knackered after kicking hell out of Jordan.....

Richman for me everytime although if the opposition doesn't press then Williams thrives....tough choices.....

Glad to clear that up :-)
Title: Re: Guiseley Match Thread
Post by: Alty Bri on October 11, 2019, 01:33:38 PM
We are 18th in the league and Guiseley are in the playoff places. We need to play out strongest available 11.

Couldn't agree more. I don't think we are quite ready to throw in the towel just yet.
Title: Re: Guiseley Match Thread
Post by: hsmith1 on October 12, 2019, 02:46:22 PM
Anthony Thompson, Shaun Densmore, Andrew White, James Jones, Thomas Hannigan, Jake Moult (C), John Johnston, Sean Williams, Thomas Peers, Joshua Hancock, Ashley Hemmings.
Substitutes: Simon Richman, Jordan Hulme, Max Harrop, Toby Mullarkey, Lewis Archer.
Title: Re: Guiseley Match Thread
Post by: HashtagAlty on October 12, 2019, 04:01:56 PM
No squad depth. A guiseley team with CB's playing on the wings.

Way below standards again
Title: Re: Guiseley Match Thread
Post by: Hale Alty on October 12, 2019, 06:10:27 PM
Sounded like a poor game and a poor performance matched by a poor commentary. Come on guys at least get the names of your own players right.
Title: Re: Guiseley Match Thread
Post by: hsmith1 on October 12, 2019, 06:54:03 PM
i just cut and pasted from the match day on the official website
Title: Re: Guiseley Match Thread
Post by: robininstockport on October 12, 2019, 07:08:12 PM
We got behind them enough times to have been out of sight before the non penalty decision, but some poor thinking and even poorer delivery led to no goal from open play.

Think their goal came from a back pass that hit white allowing their man to nip in.

Delighted Hancock took the pen, much firmer strike.
I
Yes it was a poor game but when all the opposition want is to hit the big men (of which they have plenty) up top, then sit in out of possession patience is key.

We definitely need a playmaker in midfield.
Title: Re: Guiseley Match Thread
Post by: that man showler on October 12, 2019, 07:40:08 PM

 Reports circulating that Harrop and Jones were fighting In the tunnel after the game.

 If that's true are the players futures at the club in doubt??

An awful game to match  an awful start to the season my patience is starting to ware thin now.

Seriously thinking of giving Southport a miss.
Title: Re: Guiseley Match Thread
Post by: VofD on October 12, 2019, 07:46:04 PM
Jones to Hannigan. Hannigan to Jones. Jones to Hannigan. Hannigan to Jones. ETC ETC ETC  Boring.

FFS try something different. >:(
 
Title: Re: Guiseley Match Thread
Post by: cheshire cat on October 12, 2019, 08:12:24 PM
Harrop was incandescent at the end. I was level with it and didn't see a penalty. Maybe the ref was the same side as me and the linesman and also didn't see anything.

I thought it was a good effort by our lads on a narrow pitch but no one seems able to score. . They didn't deserve anything but if we are going to give away soft goals at the back we've got to be able to score. Our penalty was lucky really. There defender went for the ball and got Dens. If he'd backed off our cross would probably have been another chance spurned.

We are as good as them and they are still in a playoff position.
Title: Re: Guiseley Match Thread
Post by: roytonmike on October 12, 2019, 08:54:59 PM
Harrop was incandescent at the end. I was level with it and didn't see a penalty. Maybe the ref was the same side as me and the linesman and also didn't see anything.
I thought it was a good effort by our lads on a narrow pitch but no one seems able to score. . They didn't deserve anything but if we are going to give away soft goals at the back we've got to be able to score. Our penalty was lucky really. There defender went for the ball and got Dens. If he'd backed off our cross would probably have been another chance spurned.
We are as good as them and they are still in a playoff position.
That makes two of us ...
Title: Re: Guiseley Match Thread
Post by: TheCultOfIanTunnacliffe on October 13, 2019, 01:27:06 AM


Here's the Guiseley perspective (plus a video of Hancock's penalty):


https://guiseleyafc.co.uk/threadbare-lions-go-so-close/ (https://guiseleyafc.co.uk/threadbare-lions-go-so-close/)
Title: Re: Guiseley Match Thread
Post by: One Foot in the Grave on October 13, 2019, 06:55:48 AM
The last ditch penalty shout was in the "I've seen them given" category for me, largely because it was two-footed and from behind. However, the ball was won and he wasn't "out of control". Another ref, another day....

I felt Harrop should have hit it first time to be quite honest. We simply don't have enough shots on goal these days - maybe we should have brought  on Lewis Archer on to see what he could do.
Title: Re: Guiseley Match Thread
Post by: HashtagAlty on October 13, 2019, 12:20:36 PM
Neil Sorvel should do his famous shoot drill. We had a period of not scoring enough last season and it's same this year.
Title: Re: Guiseley Match Thread
Post by: Paul Cain's Chip Pan on October 13, 2019, 03:55:33 PM
Neil Sorvel should do his famous shoot drill. We had a period of not scoring enough last season and it's same this year.

If the Halesowen gsme was anything to go by, I thought the delivery of the ball into the box was poor at times. We tended to overrun the ball and then attempt passes at the last second when there was too little space available. The corners and crosses into the box were, for the most part, predictable and easily dealt with. We've got some good players, they just need to execute better at times.
Title: Re: Guiseley Match Thread
Post by: HashtagAlty on October 14, 2019, 07:44:03 AM
Neil Sorvel should do his famous shoot drill. We had a period of not scoring enough last season and it's same this year.

If the Halesowen gsme was anything to go by, I thought the delivery of the ball into the box was poor at times. We tended to overrun the ball and then attempt passes at the last second when there was too little space available. The corners and crosses into the box were, for the most part, predictable and easily dealt with. We've got some good players, they just need to execute better at times.

I agree re. Crosses. I don't see why when playing sides with CBs whose only ability is to head and punt the ball we cross high and overhit.

We'd be much better drilling it across the six yard box or pulling it backt to the penalty spot
Title: Re: Guiseley Match Thread
Post by: MarpleAlty on October 14, 2019, 10:25:44 AM
Neil Sorvel should do his famous shoot drill. We had a period of not scoring enough last season and it's same this year.

If the Halesowen gsme was anything to go by, I thought the delivery of the ball into the box was poor at times. We tended to overrun the ball and then attempt passes at the last second when there was too little space available. The corners and crosses into the box were, for the most part, predictable and easily dealt with. We've got some good players, they just need to execute better at times.

I agree re. Crosses. I don't see why when playing sides with CBs whose only ability is to head and punt the ball we cross high and overhit.

We'd be much better drilling it across the six yard box or pulling it backt to the penalty spot

Agreed - which of course is exactly how Peers' goal came about.

To be honest that's why I always liked JJ playing on the left - he's so much stronger on his right that his only real option on his left is to go low / pull back - or cut in on his right and shoot.
Title: Re: Guiseley Match Thread
Post by: Hale Alty on October 14, 2019, 12:36:33 PM
"Poor cross from Johnston" was heard too often in the commentary.
Title: Re: Guiseley Match Thread
Post by: cheshire cat on October 14, 2019, 01:04:16 PM
Crosses were overhit all game. Guiseley packed their area though. From the moment they scored they were trying to get a 1 -0 win.
Title: Re: Guiseley Match Thread
Post by: Alty Bri on October 14, 2019, 03:28:21 PM
There is a lot of love for JJ - and justifiably so - but he's not having a great season. I have a horrible feeling that Southport will just ease him out of the game next Saturday too. Ceesay has been a bad miss for us. I didn't go on Saturday but Guiseley must have been fairly confident of holding on to their early lead. I don't think our forwards are feared any more.
Title: Re: Guiseley Match Thread
Post by: AFC56 on October 14, 2019, 03:38:23 PM
Yes JJ over hit a few crosses but he also hit three beauties across the six yard box in the first half alone which no one was any where near getting on the end of.
Ash Hemmings also put a few nice low crosses in but again no one was anywhere near them.
Dens, who was my man of the match, showed more desire to get into the box than either of our central attackers or any of our midfielders for that matter.  
  
Title: Re: Guiseley Match Thread
Post by: Seth on October 14, 2019, 06:44:35 PM
Yes JJ over hit a few crosses but he also hit three beauties across the six yard box in the first half alone which no one was any where near getting on the end of.
Ash Hemmings also put a few nice low crosses in but again no one was anywhere near them.
Dens, who was my man of the match, showed more desire to get into the box than either of our central attackers or any of our midfielders for that matter.  
  

Second this, Dens has been class this season
Title: Re: Guiseley Match Thread
Post by: oneedham on October 14, 2019, 09:29:06 PM
Yes JJ over hit a few crosses but he also hit three beauties across the six yard box in the first half alone which no one was any where near getting on the end of.
Ash Hemmings also put a few nice low crosses in but again no one was anywhere near them.
Dens, who was my man of the match, showed more desire to get into the box than either of our central attackers or any of our midfielders for that matter.  
  

Second this, Dens has been class this season

Said it many a time, we are a better team with Dens in the there.

Solid defender and class at getting forward. Hopefully keep his place and get fitter and fitter.

Already by a country mile our most consistent fullback this season.
Title: Re: Guiseley Match Thread
Post by: Hale Alty on October 15, 2019, 12:13:08 PM
Densmore, Richman and Moult drive it forward. They should be first on the team sheet every time.
Title: Re: Guiseley Match Thread
Post by: Mrs Warbouys on October 15, 2019, 04:22:58 PM
Guiseley Highlights

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uRcGaU4GnRk
Title: Re: Guiseley Match Thread
Post by: Alty Dave on October 15, 2019, 04:54:12 PM
Good highlights, I thought we created a fair few opportunities. On that angle not sure it was a penalty at the end. Max should have hit it first time instead of waiting for the challenge.
Title: Re: Guiseley Match Thread
Post by: andrewflynn on October 15, 2019, 04:58:09 PM
It's a fantastic tackle.
Title: Re: Guiseley Match Thread
Post by: Matt Taylor on October 15, 2019, 09:17:12 PM
It's a fantastic tackle.

Yes, outstanding. Particularly in the last minute to save the game. Centre back’s equivalent of a top corner screamer.
Couldn’t do it again if he tried...