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Title: Parky downbeat after Nantwich
Post by: Macsporran on September 13, 2020, 12:52:43 PM
Not best pleased with our performance yesterday, albeit with 2 different 11’s out in each half. Would have to agree ..we missed 2 good chances at the start of the 2nd half then Nantwich bossed the rest of the game. Gould made 2 brilliant saves to keep the clean sheet, looks a very accomplished keeper.

I’m sure we’ll improve our fitness and play with the remaining games, shame we can’t watch any of them. So depressing with these Rules in place, and doesn’t look great for the start of the season on 3rd October.
Title: Re: Parky downbeat after Nantwich
Post by: Alty Bri on September 13, 2020, 01:36:10 PM
To be fair, I thought that the lads who participated in most of the play offs looked quite sharp and those who didn't looked sluggish. We'll be OK.
Title: Re: Parky downbeat after Nantwich
Post by: Steve from Sale on September 13, 2020, 01:41:04 PM
I did take a few positives from the game myself. Not least the performance of our keeper who made two stupendous saves in the 2nd half. Matt Gould looks good and will challenge Thommo and keep him on his toes. Ritchie Sutton was very steady and accomplished and looks a good acquisition for the National League. For a first friendly we were not too bad, especially with wholesale changes in the 2nd half. Yusifu took a little time to settle in, but so did other team members. I did think Dougie looked ok in the 2nd half as did the right-sided centre back behind him. Thought it was James Jones at first! The defence did not concede, due in part to Matt Gould but though we gave the ball away a little, players improved overall through the game. Though he looked a little rusty at the start, Toby became stronger as the game went on and his potential started to really show. He also played ok with Ritchie too.

When you haven't seen a live football match in over 6 months, you do appreciate it even more. The burger with cheese and bacon was delicious too!
Title: Re: Parky downbeat after Nantwich
Post by: HashtagAlty on September 13, 2020, 03:25:35 PM
If that was the performance was against Alport or Abbey Hay it'd have finished 3 or 4-0, I say that as they're our usual opening side.

Throw in Natwich have had plenty of football. We've not played since August 1st, so six weeks off and I was suprised.

We looked in decent shape, knocked it around. Sutton and Gould looked good. Couldn't say much about the others, but I'm sure Clayton will benefit from others around him.
Title: Re: Parky downbeat after Nantwich
Post by: Paul Cain's Chip Pan on September 13, 2020, 06:49:05 PM
Setting the bar high.

Nowt wrong with that. 👍🔴⚪
Title: Re: Parky downbeat after Nantwich
Post by: arnald on September 13, 2020, 06:54:48 PM
do we no if the full crowd will be allowed back at Altrincham yet or not ?im going to buy a season ticket anyway but like to no ?
Title: Re: Parky downbeat after Nantwich
Post by: Hugh on September 13, 2020, 09:10:21 PM
Frankly no one  knows anything for sure at the moment, as the poll on playing the season indicates. With the current scattergun approach of the authorities I wouldn't want to bet on any given outcome by October 3rd let alone through the season. I can at least quote a national paper which says ""The government have said they will review the planned return of fans on October 1 later this month" and that "test events <are> now capped at 1,000 supporters". It also says that 100m pounds is lost to football for each month without fans, which I find profoundly dispiriting given the many hours that I and others have spent over the years trying to raise a few extra pounds for the club.

I suspect that if fans are allowed back, it will at any rate be at a high enough number to allow all season ticket holders to attend. Certainly at National league level, I would think that a lot of clubs could not afford to play much of the season with crowds capped at 1000 or less - unless streaming matches etc. raises more money than I thought.

Just to be clear, the best we can reasonably hope for, certainly in October, and probably for some months beyond, is 30 per cent of current ground capacity (around 2,300 I think). The best...
Title: Re: Parky downbeat after Nantwich
Post by: JD on September 13, 2020, 10:06:06 PM
Frankly no one  knows anything for sure at the moment, as the poll on playing the season indicates. With the current scattergun approach of the authorities I wouldn't want to bet on any given outcome by October 3rd let alone through the season. I can at least quote a national paper which says ""The government have said they will review the planned return of fans on October 1 later this month" and that "test events <are> now capped at 1,000 supporters". It also says that 100m pounds is lost to football for each month without fans, which I find profoundly dispiriting given the many hours that I and others have spent over the years trying to raise a few extra pounds for the club.

I suspect that if fans are allowed back, it will at any rate be at a high enough number to allow all season ticket holders to attend. Certainly at National league level, I would think that a lot of clubs could not afford to play much of the season with crowds capped at 1000 or less - unless streaming matches etc. raises more money than I thought.

Just to be clear, the best we can reasonably hope for, certainly in October, and probably for some months beyond, is 30 per cent of current ground capacity (around 2,300 I think). The best...

At the start of this they told us you had to be inside in relatively close contact with a person to catch this thing - they have not told us anything different.

1500-2000 outside staying 3' away from each other is hardly beyond our abilities, especially in outdoor conditions.
Title: Re: Parky downbeat after Nantwich
Post by: MadFrankie on September 13, 2020, 10:40:33 PM
Frankly no one  knows anything for sure at the moment, as the poll on playing the season indicates. With the current scattergun approach of the authorities I wouldn't want to bet on any given outcome by October 3rd let alone through the season. I can at least quote a national paper which says ""The government have said they will review the planned return of fans on October 1 later this month" and that "test events <are> now capped at 1,000 supporters". It also says that 100m pounds is lost to football for each month without fans, which I find profoundly dispiriting given the many hours that I and others have spent over the years trying to raise a few extra pounds for the club.

I suspect that if fans are allowed back, it will at any rate be at a high enough number to allow all season ticket holders to attend. Certainly at National league level, I would think that a lot of clubs could not afford to play much of the season with crowds capped at 1000 or less - unless streaming matches etc. raises more money than I thought.

Just to be clear, the best we can reasonably hope for, certainly in October, and probably for some months beyond, is 30 per cent of current ground capacity (around 2,300 I think). The best...

At the start of this they told us you had to be inside in relatively close contact with a person to catch this thing - they have not told us anything different.

1500-2000 outside staying 3' away from each other is hardly beyond our abilities, especially in outdoor conditions.
Do you two need to pollute every thread with your tinfoil hat nonsense?
Title: Re: Parky downbeat after Nantwich
Post by: Hugh on September 13, 2020, 10:42:16 PM
I saw a photo in the Non League Paper of the "tape on the terraces" at Margate marking  where each supporter is supposed to stand (pity the poor blighter who stuck all that down). If that was the situation, and if people stuck pretty close to it, I don't see how anyone could argue that that isn't safe (we might even be able to cheer a goal at that distance!) - but who knows what will happen now with this new "rule of 6". It's looking a long way back to normality until there's a rethink by the authorities.

Worth stating, I think, that my projection of weekly deaths in May (assuming a 20% decrease in deaths every week) is, amazingly, still pretty much on track - it had us on 72 deaths for the week to 8th September - actual deaths for the week to yesterday - 74! I had honestly hoped that things might get back pretty much to normal once (official reported) deaths got below 100 a week - as they have been since PHE stopped misreporting the deaths on the 10th August, thanks largely to the redoubtable Carl Heneghan. Sadly it seems that that's not going to happen now. Any guesses as to what will satisfy the current regime? 100 cases? Zero cases? A vaccine (assuming we get one in the foreseeable)?
Title: Re: Parky downbeat after Nantwich
Post by: JD on September 13, 2020, 11:36:09 PM
Frankly no one  knows anything for sure at the moment, as the poll on playing the season indicates. With the current scattergun approach of the authorities I wouldn't want to bet on any given outcome by October 3rd let alone through the season. I can at least quote a national paper which says ""The government have said they will review the planned return of fans on October 1 later this month" and that "test events <are> now capped at 1,000 supporters". It also says that 100m pounds is lost to football for each month without fans, which I find profoundly dispiriting given the many hours that I and others have spent over the years trying to raise a few extra pounds for the club.

I suspect that if fans are allowed back, it will at any rate be at a high enough number to allow all season ticket holders to attend. Certainly at National league level, I would think that a lot of clubs could not afford to play much of the season with crowds capped at 1000 or less - unless streaming matches etc. raises more money than I thought.

Just to be clear, the best we can reasonably hope for, certainly in October, and probably for some months beyond, is 30 per cent of current ground capacity (around 2,300 I think). The best...

At the start of this they told us you had to be inside in relatively close contact with a person to catch this thing - they have not told us anything different.

1500-2000 outside staying 3' away from each other is hardly beyond our abilities, especially in outdoor conditions.
Do you two need to pollute every thread with your tinfoil hat nonsense?

Or "Facts" if you look at government stats and scientific information.
Title: Re: Parky downbeat after Nantwich
Post by: Hugh on September 13, 2020, 11:38:30 PM
Yes we do, MadFrankie. You got any better ideas? Like I say, as soon as we can have some certainty about what's going to happen, the sooner we can forget about this wretched political virus.

That figure again, Mad Frankie - one hundred million pounds a month lost to football with no fans allowed. And when I think of the many hours I and so many others spent trying to raise a tiny fraction of that to keep this club going through the dark times, and the many clubs who will inevitably go to the wall if this nonsense continues (to say nothing of the starving millions in Africa etc.) - I think we've got a right to be concerned!

What's the big issue anyway? It's not like I don't touch on the football or talk about nothing but. Realistically this is going to be a topic of discussion until we are allowed to watch our club as normal.

Glad to see I'm not the only one who likes a drink anyway! ;)
Title: Re: Parky downbeat after Nantwich
Post by: JD on September 13, 2020, 11:42:23 PM
I saw a photo in the Non League Paper of the "tape on the terraces" at Margate marking  where each supporter is supposed to stand (pity the poor blighter who stuck all that down). If that was the situation, and if people stuck pretty close to it, I don't see how anyone could argue that that isn't safe (we might even be able to cheer a goal at that distance!) - but who knows what will happen now with this new "rule of 6". It's looking a long way back to normality until there's a rethink by the authorities.

Worth stating, I think, that my projection of weekly deaths in May (assuming a 20% decrease in deaths every week) is, amazingly, still pretty much on track - it had us on 72 deaths for the week to 8th September - actual deaths for the week to yesterday - 74! I had honestly hoped tthat things might get back pretty much to normal once (official reported) deaths got below 100 a week - as they have been since PHE stopped misreporting the deaths on the 10th August, thanks largely to the redoubtable Carl Heneghan. Sadly it seems that that's not going to happen now. Any guesses as to what will satisfy the current regime? 100 cases? Zero cases? A vaccine (assuming we get one in the foreseable)?

You have as much chances of zero cases of C19 as of having zero cases of flu or colds! There might well be an increase of cases into winter - in the same way we have increases in flu and cold cases.
As for a vaccine: vaccines that work properly tend to take upto or over 5yrs of research, development and testing before they are truly viable...by which time the virus has mutated, which is why flu vaccines have a very low percentage success rate, while MMR, polio and the like are very successful.
Title: Re: Parky downbeat after Nantwich
Post by: Hugh on September 13, 2020, 11:57:13 PM
That's what worries me - they'll keep these restrictions going for years with no safe effective vaccine - and even then, they might come under pressure to keep them going if people think they'll reduce cases of other diseases. Seriously, how long before they bankrupt the country if they carry on like this? £100b was it, to "test" 10m people every week? (ie equal to the budget of the NHS per year).

So there you go, MadFrankie, five years perhaps til we can test our 7800 capacity (assuming we draw a big team in the cup). I think there's Alty fans out there who'll want answers.

Oh and by the way, MadFrankie, viruses genuinely do mutate, they're notorious for it.  :)
Title: Re: Parky downbeat after Nantwich
Post by: RockyRobin on September 14, 2020, 09:12:31 AM
Isn't there somewhere on Mumsnet to rant about these sorts of things?
Title: Re: Parky downbeat after Nantwich
Post by: Macsporran on September 14, 2020, 10:17:56 AM
...and to think I started this thread with a comment about Parky’s interview!

Makes me wonder if sensible discussions can ever be had here, with people hijacking threads to spout their own nonsense.
Title: Re: Parky downbeat after Nantwich
Post by: Saughall Robin on September 14, 2020, 10:30:19 AM
I tend not to get sucked in to anything smacking of politics. I think everyone is entitled to their opinion, however preposterous but this is a football forum. Let's keep it like that eh folks?
Title: Re: Parky downbeat after Nantwich
Post by: RageAgainstTheFirstTeam on September 14, 2020, 10:49:51 AM
This forum is getting really tedious with all this now. There's a time and a place. Can't you see a thread about a friendly performance and the manager's reaction shouldn't be clogged up with all this?
Title: Re: Parky downbeat after Nantwich
Post by: Sarf London Alty on September 14, 2020, 11:53:56 AM
100%.

Every time I open the forum & see another essay on Covid from Hugh or JD I just ignore it. Getting a bit tedious now lads.
Title: Re: Parky downbeat after Nantwich
Post by: hsmith1 on September 14, 2020, 03:24:28 PM
had a job hearing what phil said due to what sounded like a lot of wind on the mike.
Title: Re: Parky downbeat after Nantwich
Post by: AltyFan101 on September 14, 2020, 05:15:17 PM
I couldn't go to the game on Saturday but I have watched the Nantwich ten-minute highlights and the main things I noticed were:

- Sutton seemed to have a good game, his experience and ability will be very useful to us next season and I think he will definitely be a starter
- Gould put in a brilliant performance and I doubt Parky has fully decided his no.1 yet (you'd think Tony to start with)
- Tom Peers looked like he put in a decent shift out wide
- Hulme was good
- Mooney was good (until his injury of course - I hope to God it isn't too serious)
- Clayton played up front and not in his preferable 10 position - would have thought Miller striker and him behind first half
- Mullarkey played in the midfield second half which makes me think we could actually line-up as follows this season (considering we haven't signed another cm):

GK Thompson/Gould
RB Densmore
LB White/Hampson
CB Sutton
CB Hannigan
DM Mullarkey
LW Mooney/Peers
CM Moult
ST Hulme
CM Hancock
RW Kosylo/Ceesay
Title: Re: Parky downbeat after Nantwich
Post by: TheCultOfIanTunnacliffe on September 14, 2020, 05:35:44 PM


Match report:

https://www.nantwichtownfc.co.uk/an-own-goal-and-two-leagues-separates-the-dabbers-and-altrincham-fc/ (https://www.nantwichtownfc.co.uk/an-own-goal-and-two-leagues-separates-the-dabbers-and-altrincham-fc/)


Match highlights:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=esH8q3FtArg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=esH8q3FtArg)
Title: Re: Parky downbeat after Nantwich
Post by: arnald on September 14, 2020, 08:09:36 PM
Frankly no one  knows anything for sure at the moment, as the poll on playing the season indicates. With the current scattergun approach of the authorities I wouldn't want to bet on any given outcome by October 3rd let alone through the season. I can at least quote a national paper which says ""The government have said they will review the planned return of fans on October 1 later this month" and that "test events <are> now capped at 1,000 supporters". It also says that 100m pounds is lost to football for each month without fans, which I find profoundly dispiriting given the many hours that I and others have spent over the years trying to raise a few extra pounds for the club.

I suspect that if fans are allowed back, it will at any rate be at a high enough number to allow all season ticket holders to attend. Certainly at National league level, I would think that a lot of clubs could not afford to play much of the season with crowds capped at 1000 or less - unless streaming matches etc. raises more money than I thought.  yes thank you for your response . I will like I say pay my money to help the club, and role the dice

Just to be clear, the best we can reasonably hope for, certainly in October, and probably for some months beyond, is 30 per cent of current ground capacity (around 2,300 I think). The best...

At the start of this they told us you had to be inside in relatively close contact with a person to catch this thing - they have not told us anything different.

1500-2000 outside staying 3' away from each other is hardly beyond our abilities, especially in outdoor conditions.
Do you two need to pollute every thread with your tinfoil hat nonsense?
Title: Re: Parky downbeat after Nantwich
Post by: JD on September 14, 2020, 09:21:01 PM
Frankly no one  knows anything for sure at the moment, as the poll on playing the season indicates. With the current scattergun approach of the authorities I wouldn't want to bet on any given outcome by October 3rd let alone through the season. I can at least quote a national paper which says ""The government have said they will review the planned return of fans on October 1 later this month" and that "test events <are> now capped at 1,000 supporters". It also says that 100m pounds is lost to football for each month without fans, which I find profoundly dispiriting given the many hours that I and others have spent over the years trying to raise a few extra pounds for the club.

I suspect that if fans are allowed back, it will at any rate be at a high enough number to allow all season ticket holders to attend. Certainly at National league level, I would think that a lot of clubs could not afford to play much of the season with crowds capped at 1000 or less - unless streaming matches etc. raises more money than I thought.  yes thank you for your response . I will like I say pay my money to help the club, and role the dice

Just to be clear, the best we can reasonably hope for, certainly in October, and probably for some months beyond, is 30 per cent of current ground capacity (around 2,300 I think). The best...

At the start of this they told us you had to be inside in relatively close contact with a person to catch this thing - they have not told us anything different.

1500-2000 outside staying 3' away from each other is hardly beyond our abilities, especially in outdoor conditions.
Do you two need to pollute every thread with your tinfoil hat nonsense?

No, just facts and opinion.
Title: Re: Parky downbeat after Nantwich
Post by: RockyRobin on September 14, 2020, 09:50:31 PM
Zzzzzzzzz
Title: Re: Parky downbeat after Nantwich
Post by: Hugh on September 14, 2020, 10:28:20 PM
It was a tremendous save from Gould at full stretch from a ferociously struck shot that was heading for the top corner - and I'm not easily impressed by saves  (I seem to remember an Alty keeper was quite impressed by my saves at a training session once!), but I thought that one was going in. Ceesay visibly improved as the half wore on, and he will prove a real handful next season when he gets into his stride (I think he probably will be ok this time, fitness wise).
Is there anywhere that gives the "teams" for the game? I know it was a different team first and second half.

 Macsporran, the Nantwich match reminded me rather of the sloppiness of the game at Atherton Collieries last preseason, but I remain hopeful we can have a decent start with the recent experience of competitive football under our belts hopefully giving us an advantage over most of the other teams who won't have played competitively since March (goodness, these playoffs have worked out well for us!) - and in some cases will have a lot of new players (Dover, Macc).

As for the "political bug", someone asked a question and I answered it. End of. But didn't Nantwich Town have to release all their players because of this business? I'm afraid the subject is likely to continue to crop up, at least until we have some certainty about playing the season and the return of fans. You can't expect people to ignore it completely with the season less than three weeks away and we still have no idea what will happen. Good luck trying to keep this section pure and unpolluted!

p.s. you're welcome, Big van vader, and I just hope that things have sorted themselves out by the 21/22 season!  ;)
Title: Re: Parky downbeat after Nantwich
Post by: Hugh on September 14, 2020, 11:38:10 PM
Isn't there somewhere on Mumsnet to rant about these sorts of things?

Miaow!
Title: Re: Parky downbeat after Nantwich
Post by: Steve from Sale on September 15, 2020, 08:30:51 AM
I actually think that we have a good strong squad for next season. I am sure they will improve, and we may know a little more tonight after the next friendly. Once they are kicking a ball in anger again, they will show their true colours.

All I ask them to do is to try and get a good start to the season, and get some early points. Be very interesting and I am looking forward to it. New kit will look good too.
Title: Re: Parky downbeat after Nantwich
Post by: Steve from Sale on September 15, 2020, 08:32:22 AM
I still also feel especially in view of the playoff results, that had the season gone through to the end we may have finished 1st-3rd, possibly won it.
Title: Re: Parky downbeat after Nantwich
Post by: Hale Alty on September 15, 2020, 08:59:16 AM
The shut down worked very well for King's Lynn who were on a very rocky patch when it happened. I think third was almost a certainty for Altrincham give the form at the time. Having witnessed about twenty-five Altrincham pre-seasons I'm of the opinion that they mean nothing other than getting players fit. We could win them all and still lose the opening day 4-0, or vice versa.
Title: Re: Parky downbeat after Nantwich
Post by: MadFrankie on September 15, 2020, 09:03:42 AM
The shut down worked very well for King's Lynn who were on a very rocky patch when it happened.
Likewise York, although getting a home playoff against Tom Peers FC was perhaps not what they would have wanted.
Title: Re: Parky downbeat after Nantwich
Post by: MarpleAlty on September 15, 2020, 09:19:23 AM
I couldn't go to the game on Saturday but I have watched the Nantwich ten-minute highlights and the main things I noticed were:

- Sutton seemed to have a good game, his experience and ability will be very useful to us next season and I think he will definitely be a starter
- Gould put in a brilliant performance and I doubt Parky has fully decided his no.1 yet (you'd think Tony to start with)
- Tom Peers looked like he put in a decent shift out wide
- Hulme was good
- Mooney was good (until his injury of course - I hope to God it isn't too serious)
- Clayton played up front and not in his preferable 10 position - would have thought Miller striker and him behind first half
- Mullarkey played in the midfield second half which makes me think we could actually line-up as follows this season (considering we haven't signed another cm):

GK Thompson/Gould
RB Densmore
LB White/Hampson
CB Sutton
CB Hannigan
DM Mullarkey
LW Mooney/Peers
CM Moult
ST Hulme
CM Hancock
RW Kosylo/Ceesay


I'd be amazed if he didn't stick with his trusted 4-2-3-1, which would mean Mullarkey sitting alongside Moult which I agree I think he might utilise a lot this season (particularly away from home).

You've got your wingers the wrong way round - Mooney will start on the right, and I suspect we'd be better off starting with Kosylo and bringing Ceesay on to cause havoc for half an hour.
Title: Re: Parky downbeat after Nantwich
Post by: AltyFan101 on September 15, 2020, 01:01:23 PM
I couldn't go to the game on Saturday but I have watched the Nantwich ten-minute highlights and the main things I noticed were:

- Sutton seemed to have a good game, his experience and ability will be very useful to us next season and I think he will definitely be a starter
- Gould put in a brilliant performance and I doubt Parky has fully decided his no.1 yet (you'd think Tony to start with)
- Tom Peers looked like he put in a decent shift out wide
- Hulme was good
- Mooney was good (until his injury of course - I hope to God it isn't too serious)
- Clayton played up front and not in his preferable 10 position - would have thought Miller striker and him behind first half
- Mullarkey played in the midfield second half which makes me think we could actually line-up as follows this season (considering we haven't signed another cm):

GK Thompson/Gould
RB Densmore
LB White/Hampson
CB Sutton
CB Hannigan
DM Mullarkey
LW Mooney/Peers
CM Moult
ST Hulme
CM Hancock
RW Kosylo/Ceesay


I'd be amazed if he didn't stick with his trusted 4-2-3-1, which would mean Mullarkey sitting alongside Moult which I agree I think he might utilise a lot this season (particularly away from home).

You've got your wingers the wrong way round - Mooney will start on the right, and I suspect we'd be better off starting with Kosylo and bringing Ceesay on to cause havoc for half an hour.


Yes, sorry, had the wingers on the wrong sides 🤦‍♂️

We seemed to defend in a 4-3-3 on Saturday with the no.10 dropping into a cm role and Williams/Richman pushing higher than normal with a Parky system.  We attacked also with a single pivot (Moult/Mullarkey) in a sort of 4-1-1-1-3 formation (same system used in the youth teams and when we had Lundstram at our disposal).
Title: Re: Parky downbeat after Nantwich
Post by: AltyFan101 on September 15, 2020, 01:03:33 PM
It was a tremendous save from Gould at full stretch from a ferociously struck shot that was heading for the top corner - and I'm not easily impressed by saves  (I seem to remember an Alty keeper was quite impressed by my saves at a training session once!), but I thought that one was going in. Ceesay visibly improved as the half wore on, and he will prove a real handful next season when he gets into his stride (I think he probably will be ok this time, fitness wise).
Is there anywhere that gives the "teams" for the game? I know it was a different team first and second half.

 Macsporran, the Nantwich match reminded me rather of the sloppiness of the game at Atherton Collieries last preseason, but I remain hopeful we can have a decent start with the recent experience of competitive football under our belts hopefully giving us an advantage over most of the other teams who won't have played competitively since March (goodness, these playoffs have worked out well for us!) - and in some cases will have a lot of new players (Dover, Macc).

As for the "political bug", someone asked a question and I answered it. End of. But didn't Nantwich Town have to release all their players because of this business? I'm afraid the subject is likely to continue to crop up, at least until we have some certainty about playing the season and the return of fans. You can't expect people to ignore it completely with the season less than three weeks away and we still have no idea what will happen. Good luck trying to keep this section pure and unpolluted!

p.s. you're welcome, Big van vader, and I just hope that things have sorted themselves out by the 21/22 season!  ;)

https://www.altrinchamfc.com/fixture/first-team/2020-21/nantwich-town-a-49954 Lineups given here (+ trialists Nyampombe and Hall who are not named here)
Title: Re: Parky downbeat after Nantwich
Post by: MarpleAlty on September 15, 2020, 01:35:54 PM
I couldn't go to the game on Saturday but I have watched the Nantwich ten-minute highlights and the main things I noticed were:

- Sutton seemed to have a good game, his experience and ability will be very useful to us next season and I think he will definitely be a starter
- Gould put in a brilliant performance and I doubt Parky has fully decided his no.1 yet (you'd think Tony to start with)
- Tom Peers looked like he put in a decent shift out wide
- Hulme was good
- Mooney was good (until his injury of course - I hope to God it isn't too serious)
- Clayton played up front and not in his preferable 10 position - would have thought Miller striker and him behind first half
- Mullarkey played in the midfield second half which makes me think we could actually line-up as follows this season (considering we haven't signed another cm):

GK Thompson/Gould
RB Densmore
LB White/Hampson
CB Sutton
CB Hannigan
DM Mullarkey
LW Mooney/Peers
CM Moult
ST Hulme
CM Hancock
RW Kosylo/Ceesay


I'd be amazed if he didn't stick with his trusted 4-2-3-1, which would mean Mullarkey sitting alongside Moult which I agree I think he might utilise a lot this season (particularly away from home).

You've got your wingers the wrong way round - Mooney will start on the right, and I suspect we'd be better off starting with Kosylo and bringing Ceesay on to cause havoc for half an hour.


Yes, sorry, had the wingers on the wrong sides 🤦‍♂️

We seemed to defend in a 4-3-3 on Saturday with the no.10 dropping into a cm role and Williams/Richman pushing higher than normal with a Parky system.  We attacked also with a single pivot (Moult/Mullarkey) in a sort of 4-1-1-1-3 formation (same system used in the youth teams and when we had Lundstram at our disposal).

Interesting, thanks.

Unless I'm mistaken, I remember Parky trialling more of a 4-3-3 system at the start of the season before last, where it seemed to work to good effect away at Southport (have I got that right?)

It seemed to unravel a bit after that and he promptly dropped it, from memory.

Good to see he's experimenting with things as we'll definitely need a plan B or plan C at times this year - we just need a lump like Kyle Perry up front  :D
Title: Re: Parky downbeat after Nantwich
Post by: AltyFan101 on September 15, 2020, 01:57:22 PM
I couldn't go to the game on Saturday but I have watched the Nantwich ten-minute highlights and the main things I noticed were:

- Sutton seemed to have a good game, his experience and ability will be very useful to us next season and I think he will definitely be a starter
- Gould put in a brilliant performance and I doubt Parky has fully decided his no.1 yet (you'd think Tony to start with)
- Tom Peers looked like he put in a decent shift out wide
- Hulme was good
- Mooney was good (until his injury of course - I hope to God it isn't too serious)
- Clayton played up front and not in his preferable 10 position - would have thought Miller striker and him behind first half
- Mullarkey played in the midfield second half which makes me think we could actually line-up as follows this season (considering we haven't signed another cm):

GK Thompson/Gould
RB Densmore
LB White/Hampson
CB Sutton
CB Hannigan
DM Mullarkey
LW Mooney/Peers
CM Moult
ST Hulme
CM Hancock
RW Kosylo/Ceesay


I'd be amazed if he didn't stick with his trusted 4-2-3-1, which would mean Mullarkey sitting alongside Moult which I agree I think he might utilise a lot this season (particularly away from home).

You've got your wingers the wrong way round - Mooney will start on the right, and I suspect we'd be better off starting with Kosylo and bringing Ceesay on to cause havoc for half an hour.


Yes, sorry, had the wingers on the wrong sides 🤦‍♂️

We seemed to defend in a 4-3-3 on Saturday with the no.10 dropping into a cm role and Williams/Richman pushing higher than normal with a Parky system.  We attacked also with a single pivot (Moult/Mullarkey) in a sort of 4-1-1-1-3 formation (same system used in the youth teams and when we had Lundstram at our disposal).

Interesting, thanks.

Unless I'm mistaken, I remember Parky trialling more of a 4-3-3 system at the start of the season before last, where it seemed to work to good effect away at Southport (have I got that right?)

It seemed to unravel a bit after that and he promptly dropped it, from memory.

Good to see he's experimenting with things as we'll definitely need a plan B or plan C at times this year - we just need a lump like Kyle Perry up front  :D

🤣🤣 The one system we can be sure Parky won't use is hoofball, leave that to Smacc
Title: Re: Parky downbeat after Nantwich
Post by: One Foot in the Grave on September 15, 2020, 11:52:43 PM
Is the omission of Sean Williams from the above team deliberate or an oversight ?
Title: Re: Parky downbeat after Nantwich
Post by: AltyFan101 on September 16, 2020, 11:20:33 PM
Is the omission of Sean Williams from the above team deliberate or an oversight ?

I was just thinking about what the team would look like if Parky does end up using Mullarkey as DM as he seems to want to.  However, I agree, to start with at least I think the midfield will be Moult, Williams and Hancock.
Title: Re: Parky downbeat after Nantwich
Post by: Hugh on September 17, 2020, 12:27:06 AM
It was a tremendous save from Gould at full stretch from a ferociously struck shot that was heading for the top corner - and I'm not easily impressed by saves  (I seem to remember an Alty keeper was quite impressed by my saves at a training session once!), but I thought that one was going in. Ceesay visibly improved as the half wore on, and he will prove a real handful next season when he gets into his stride (I think he probably will be ok this time, fitness wise).
Is there anywhere that gives the "teams" for the game? I know it was a different team first and second half.

 Macsporran, the Nantwich match reminded me rather of the sloppiness of the game at Atherton Collieries last preseason, but I remain hopeful we can have a decent start with the recent experience of competitive football under our belts hopefully giving us an advantage over most of the other teams who won't have played competitively since March (goodness, these playoffs have worked out well for us!) - and in some cases will have a lot of new players (Dover, Macc).

As for the "political bug", someone asked a question and I answered it. End of. But didn't Nantwich Town have to release all their players because of this business? I'm afraid the subject is likely to continue to crop up, at least until we have some certainty about playing the season and the return of fans. You can't expect people to ignore it completely with the season less than three weeks away and we still have no idea what will happen. Good luck trying to keep this section pure and unpolluted!

p.s. you're welcome, Big van vader, and I just hope that things have sorted themselves out by the 21/22 season!  ;)

https://www.altrinchamfc.com/fixture/first-team/2020-21/nantwich-town-a-49954 Lineups given here (+ trialists Nyampombe and Hall who are not named here)

That's brilliant, thanks.

I would also assume Williams. Wasn't he the main challenger for Lundstram? Either way, I think we've got a few options, and it's looking like Miller could be a plus.