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Title: EFL to allow supporters this weekend
Post by: Mrs Warbouys on September 15, 2020, 03:12:24 PM
https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11095/12072568/efl-clubs-allowed-up-to-1000-fans-for-pilot-event-matches-this-weekend
Title: Re: EFL to allow supporters this weekend
Post by: Timperley The Best on September 15, 2020, 03:32:49 PM
Which has to be good news, lets hope they dont cap the National League at 1k when the actual season starts .

Edit .  The National League have asked the govt  for crowds of 1k to be accepted from October.
Title: Re: EFL to allow supporters this weekend
Post by: Mrs Warbouys on September 15, 2020, 04:59:00 PM
https://www.thenationalleague.org.uk/national-league-statement-safe-return-of-spectator-63598?fbclid=IwAR1Jp2gd42prwS1snhmaFbu8es2KZAIL2aYaig2yq8PNDnA_yUUc8sEY1kU
Title: Re: EFL to allow supporters this weekend
Post by: Hugh on September 17, 2020, 12:44:27 AM
Ah, a politician!!!
   ;)
I'm afraid I won't be counting my chickens just yet for reasons already stated! (see ot forum!)
Title: Re: EFL to allow supporters this weekend
Post by: JD on September 17, 2020, 09:50:18 PM
Ah, a politician!!!
   ;)
I'm afraid I won't be counting my chickens just yet for reasons already stated! (see ot forum!)

Indeed!!!!!!!

With intelligent segregation I don't see why grounds like ours can't hold a quarter or a third capacity easily.

I appreciate segregation would be more difficult in the bar etc, but when we have an attendance of 1500 there is usually plenty of space in the seated areas and empty areas in the standing areas.All that is needed is intelligence and organisation.
Title: Re: EFL to allow supporters this weekend
Post by: Hale Alty on September 17, 2020, 10:07:01 PM
Ah, a politician!!!
   ;)
I'm afraid I won't be counting my chickens just yet for reasons already stated! (see ot forum!)

Indeed!!!!!!!

With intelligent segregation I don't see why grounds like ours can't hold a quarter or a third capacity easily.

I appreciate segregation would be more difficult in the bar etc, but when we have an attendance of 1500 there is usually plenty of space in the seated areas and empty areas in the standing areas.All that is needed is intelligence and organisation.

People don't just stay in one place though they want to move about. Kids want to run around. Gangways are narrow. I wish the club the best of liuck operating the Spectators Code of Conduct I really do.
Title: Re: EFL to allow supporters this weekend
Post by: CB on September 18, 2020, 08:33:43 AM
Seeing the groups of people standing together at the Nantwich game doesn't inspire confidence that people will follow the rules tbh.
Title: Re: EFL to allow supporters this weekend
Post by: HashtagAlty on September 18, 2020, 09:27:57 AM
Seeing the groups of people standing together at the Nantwich game doesn't inspire confidence that people will follow the rules tbh.

I'd like to hope there'd be a bit more planning for league matches:

Buying a ticket for a certain entrance, temp markings of 1m apart or even allocated standing spots. Better queueing for toilets (we could go one way with the gents unlinke Nantwich
Title: Re: EFL to allow supporters this weekend
Post by: TheCultOfIanTunnacliffe on September 20, 2020, 02:56:36 PM



What provisions have the board implemented to deal with unwanted pitch invaders?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leeds-54224681 (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leeds-54224681)
Title: Re: EFL to allow supporters this weekend
Post by: CRT Butty on September 20, 2020, 03:15:16 PM



What provisions have the board implemented to deal with unwanted pitch invaders?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leeds-54224681 (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leeds-54224681)

Alpaca large lead and a shovel in the required kit list.
Title: Re: EFL to allow supporters this weekend
Post by: Mallorca Alty on September 20, 2020, 05:15:34 PM
Having attended the Alty Ladies game this afternoon. I was told by a steward that no one was allowed to stand in the Golf Road end. The away toilets are an absolute disgrace. It looks like they haven't been cleaned since before the lockdown, if at all. So I am not sure how they are going to strictly enforce the social distancing rule if they are not allowing supporters in the Golf Road End.
Title: Re: EFL to allow supporters this weekend
Post by: JD on September 20, 2020, 08:50:19 PM



What provisions have the board implemented to deal with unwanted pitch invaders?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leeds-54224681 (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leeds-54224681)

Alpaca large lead and a shovel in the required kit list.

I remember his Uncle Kerry and the World Series cricket in the 70s
Title: Re: EFL to allow supporters this weekend
Post by: JD on September 20, 2020, 08:55:51 PM
Having attended the Alty Ladies game this afternoon. I was told by a steward that no one was allowed to stand in the Golf Road end. The away toilets are an absolute disgrace. It looks like they haven't been cleaned since before the lockdown, if at all. So I am not sure how they are going to strictly enforce the social distancing rule if they are not allowing supporters in the Golf Road End.

Did he say why?

There is enough space there to distance surely!
Title: Re: EFL to allow supporters this weekend
Post by: CRT Butty on September 20, 2020, 08:58:46 PM



What provisions have the board implemented to deal with unwanted pitch invaders?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leeds-54224681 (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leeds-54224681)

Alpaca large lead and a shovel in the required kit list.

I remember his Uncle Kerry and the World Series cricket in the 70s

Pure gold, I can't do butter than that.
Title: Re: EFL to allow supporters this weekend
Post by: Mallorca Alty on September 20, 2020, 09:01:14 PM
Having attended the Alty Ladies game this afternoon. I was told by a steward that no one was allowed to stand in the Golf Road end. The away toilets are an absolute disgrace. It looks like they haven't been cleaned since before the lockdown, if at all. So I am not sure how they are going to strictly enforce the social distancing rule if they are not allowing supporters in the Golf Road End.


Did he say why?

There is enough space there to distance surely!

No reason was given
Title: Re: EFL to allow supporters this weekend
Post by: Saughall Robin on September 20, 2020, 09:25:39 PM
Having attended the Alty Ladies game this afternoon. I was told by a steward that no one was allowed to stand in the Golf Road end. The away toilets are an absolute disgrace. It looks like they haven't been cleaned since before the lockdown, if at all. So I am not sure how they are going to strictly enforce the social distancing rule if they are not allowing supporters in the Golf Road End.


Did he say why?

There is enough space there to distance surely!

No reason was given

Perhaps they'd just cleaned it. 😉🙄😂
Title: Re: EFL to allow supporters this weekend
Post by: JD on September 20, 2020, 10:13:52 PM



What provisions have the board implemented to deal with unwanted pitch invaders?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leeds-54224681 (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leeds-54224681)

Alpaca large lead and a shovel in the required kit list.

I remember his Uncle Kerry and the World Series cricket in the 70s

Pure gold, I can't do butter than that.

 :D :D :D :D :D :D
Title: Re: EFL to allow supporters this weekend
Post by: hsmith1 on September 22, 2020, 11:50:13 AM
All off now
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/54246745
Title: Re: EFL to allow supporters this weekend
Post by: RageAgainstTheFirstTeam on September 22, 2020, 12:30:26 PM
Telegraph journalist Jim White:

"Just spoke to the chairman of a National League side. The league has said it is now not going to start without fans. But furlough ends next month. Which means there is going to be wholesale redundancy for players, coaching staff and administrators. Disaster looms for many clubs."
Title: Re: EFL to allow supporters this weekend
Post by: JTH on September 22, 2020, 12:58:34 PM
Telegraph journalist Jim White:

"Just spoke to the chairman of a National League side. The league has said it is now not going to start without fans. But furlough ends next month. Which means there is going to be wholesale redundancy for players, coaching staff and administrators. Disaster looms for many clubs."

As it stands Step 3 and below can continue with reduced capacity but Steps 1 and 2 cannot. So South Shields will be playing in front of 600 but Gateshead, 6 miles away, face having their season cancelled and perhaps their entire playing staff laid off. Either a cap on attendances for National League clubs and/or a financial support package needs to be put in place.
Title: Re: EFL to allow supporters this weekend
Post by: AltyFan101 on September 22, 2020, 01:38:52 PM
Sounds like there will be no Alty (or at least no watching Alty) until 2021.  It'll be interesting to see whether the league continue with their stance of no matches without spectators or they eventually begin the season behind closed doors because otherwise it is unlikely that there would be enough time for the season to be played.  I hope if they do begin the season behind closed doors they allow Alty TV to broadcast the games live with a PPV system in place so we can get behind the club and help it make up what will be massive losses with no gate receipts.
Title: Re: EFL to allow supporters this weekend
Post by: Leon on September 22, 2020, 01:43:11 PM
I don't see the sense in the National League delaying the start of the season - the schedule is packed already and it's not like we're going to see anything changing re crowds any time soon. I would say there are two options - play out the season to the current schedule on the understanding that most of it will be behind closed doors (and the only income will be from live streaming) or suspend National League football until crowds can return, which is likely to mean voiding the season and perhaps playing a mini no-promotion/relegation tournament in the spring. I hope they go for the former, because something's better than nothing, but either way clubs will require major financial assistance.
Title: Re: EFL to allow supporters this weekend
Post by: JD on September 22, 2020, 02:09:16 PM
Just so unnecessary.

Witty and Vallance feed us bullsh*t figures - they said based on Spain and France where the death and case sets are plateauing, but turns out if so will be far less cases and deaths than their prediction, which they didn't call a prediction.
90% of positive tests are false  (Oxford uni centre for EVIDENCE based medicine and 3 independent t studies in USA, Dr Mike Yeadon etc etc)
C19 deaths now just 1% of all deaths, flu is significantly higher
Daily  C19 deaths about 20 out of 1500-1600 daily deaths.
Deaths and hospital admissions from respiratory illness increase at this time every year, this is no exception.
No evidence to say watching matches in open air stadia will make things worse (Fan Roan, BBC)

etc etc
Title: Re: EFL to allow supporters this weekend
Post by: JD on September 22, 2020, 02:23:23 PM
Just in this last week I have spoken to 3 ppl with friends/family that had C19 on their death certs.
1. Had long term COPD, but never diagnosed with C1o
2. Fied of old age (95) in a home with no cases of C19
3. Died in a motorbike accident.

Also spoke to worker from an NHS hospital: half empty and they are "Encouraged," to put deaths down as C19