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General Category => Altrincham FC First Team => Topic started by: oneedham on December 27, 2020, 05:04:19 PM
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Current strikers at the club;- (unless any have been released....)
Fis
Harrison
McDonald
Salmon
Roache
Blyth
Peers
I think it was said Fis, McDonald & Harrison were on short term deals? Guessing until Jan.
With the quality of Colclough, Mooney, Ceesay, Kosylo & Hancock I would say we only need two strikers out of the above?
If Blyth delivers then I would imagine it would be him and Peers ( more as a squad/impact player ).
Predict Salmon will go back out on loan. Didn't know Roache was still here, where has he been playing?
I am guessing Fis, Harrison ( no idea why he was signed ) and McDonald will be released. Feel a tad sorry for McDonald, but we probably do need a stronger player up top.
We defo need to get 3 or 4 off the payroll.
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I don't think Fisayo is short term like the other two you mentioned.
Don't forget Miller who is on loan at Nantwich.
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You would think one of them would be good enough to stake a claim to challenging Tom as first choice striker .So far none of them have but Blyth does have a half decent pedigree as does Harrison .If they dont work out have Fylde got any strikers we could get on loan ?
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Roache is on the books at Bamber Bridge. Think he's just a bench filler while they've got no games. Not sure we should be writing off Harrison before he's set foot on the pitch by the way.
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Too much money balling for me.
Look at the difference Kosylo, Colclough, Smith have made. You have to go through a lot of players to find a gem, strange when we have the budget
Hartlepool signed Armstrong whose been a revelation for them.
This could be our best shot at a playoff finish in the next 5 years.
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Salmon, Roache its all a bit fishy to me ;) ;)SBL
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We were very good today, tempo was quality for the whole 90 mins. Just lacked concentration for a couple of their goals.
We either give Blyth a good few games or we start with Ceesay up top. Doesn't work with Peers starting.
Some how need to get 4 of quality starting. Ceesay is getting fitter and more confident but probably has the worst end product so let him stretch the CB's by playing up top,whilst the quality of Colclough, Hancock, Kossy and Mooney get up the pitch.
I like how Mooney is direct and has a few shots. This makes him slightly different to the other attacking players.
All the above are too good to sit on the bench so for me we need to start 4 out of the 5.
Need to de-clutter a lot of the actual strikers.
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We were very good today, tempo was quality for the whole 90 mins. Just lacked concentration for a couple of their goals.
We either give Blyth a good few games or we start with Ceesay up top. Doesn't work with Peers starting.
Some how need to get 4 of quality starting. Ceesay is getting fitter and more confident but probably has the worst end product so let him stretch the CB's by playing up top,whilst the quality of Colclough, Hancock, Kossy and Mooney get up the pitch.
I like how Mooney is direct and has a few shots. This makes him slightly different to the other attacking players.
All the above are too good to sit on the bench so for me we need to start 4 out of the 5.
ed to de-clutter a lot of the actual strikers.
Blyth needs to be given a few starts to see if he is the answer .The potential quality of our wide players must be right up there amongst the best in the league
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We seem fixated on having a big player up top but we have looked our most dangerous and better as a team with Ceesay up top. Yes he isn't a striker but he worries teams.
Blyth was really poor today.
I would start Ceesay, Hancock, Colclough and Kosylo.
Different team with Hancock as no.10.
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We need someone to hold the play but they don't have to be over 6ft
Hulme, reeves, Walshaw all kept the ball close and we played around them.
Would prefer someone who can run in behind and finish as much as hold up
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Blyth and McDonald have been released - see Club site.
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Blyth and McDonald have been released - see Club site.
Blimey, what's gone on there? Was Blyth just utter tosh?
Blyth was awful but to be fair he had very little service in that 1st half but poor when it did arrive to him. Not any worst than Fis.
I feel for McDonald, as he was never given a chance and looked OK.
No idea what the plan is with Harrison?
To be brutally honest none of them are to the standard.
However Ceesay has looked decent up top and must start there until we find that quality.
Also with Ceesay up there it frees up the LW for Colclough.
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I'd be content with us running with Ceesay as the #9 for the remainder of the season provided we go all out for a genuine Hulme replacement in the summer. I had hoped that replacement would have been found by now as I genuinely believe, like many others, that it's the only thing holding us back from attempting to gatecrash the play-offs this season.
However I do appreciate the situation we were left in with the timing of Hulme's departure and I just hope the we have targets who simply aren't available to us at the moment. We should certainly be an attractive destination for players should our form continue and we finish in a good position.
PS - Admittedly I was against Ceesay up top earlier in the season but he's definitely won me over, as oneedham says, it allows us to pick from Colclough, Hancock, Kosylo and Mooney.
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Ceesay up front is fine for me. I think he might be a better striker than a wing man as very little has come of his wing play. Mooney and Colclough are far more effective in the wide bits. my first choice team at the moment would be;
Thompson
Senior
White
Hannigan
Mullarkey
Moult
Mooney
Smith
Ceesay
Hancock
Colclough
with Kosylo being interchangable with Mooney, Ceesay, Hancock or Colclough if needs be or on rotation.
Mullarkey made a huge differnce when he came on. He gives the impression that even when picking up the ball on the edge of our own 18 yard box his head is up and looking where the goal is.
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It's a real dilemma albeit a pleasant one.
I think the team you picked is a great one but I also don't think I could leave Kosylo out.
We've not had problems like this for a while! 😉
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It's a real dilemma albeit a pleasant one.
I think the team you picked is a great one but I also don't think I could leave Kosylo out.
We've not had problems like this for a while! 😉
Agreed and maybe just Hampson over White
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Ceesay up front is fine for me. I think he might be a better striker than a wing man as very little has come of his wing play. Mooney and Colclough are far more effective in the wide bits. my first choice team at the moment would be;
Thompson
Senior
White
Hannigan
Mullarkey
Moult
Mooney
Smith
Ceesay
Hancock
Colclough
with Kosylo being interchangable with Mooney, Ceesay, Hancock or Colclough if needs be or on rotation.
Mullarkey made a huge differnce when he came on. He gives the impression that even when picking up the ball on the edge of our own 18 yard box his head is up and looking where the goal is.
My first choice would be :-
Thompson
Senior
Hampson
Hannigan
Mullarkey
Moult
Smith
RW Kosylo
LW Colclough
No.10 Hancock
ST Ceesay
Not much in Hampson or White but I do think Connor defends and attacks slightly better than White.
Sutton is very good but Mullarkey has the pace.
Kosylo would be my first choice wide player. He gets us up the pitch as seen on numerous occasions already. Then you just can't leave the quality of Colclough out. Unfortunately Mooney loses out but top player to bring on. All the wide players will get decent minutes.
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Surprised about MacDonald. I expect a couple more to go before end of Jan.
Ceesay defo pick of the bunch to play up top.
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The story on this seems to have been removed from the official website and Twitter...
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Still on JL site that Blyth and Mcdonald have gone.
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Still on JL site that Blyth and Mcdonald have gone.
Gone now.
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I wonder if Harrison Holgate went back to Fleetwood because Joey Barton was about to be sacked?
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I wonder if Harrison Holgate went back to Fleetwood because Joey Barton was about to be sacked?
Think he went back because Liverpool recalled a CB they'd loaned to Fleetwood.
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I wonder if Harrison Holgate went back to Fleetwood because Joey Barton was about to be sacked?
Was this announced? I hadn't heard
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On JL site two days ago
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Ceesay up front is fine for me. I think he might be a better striker than a wing man as very little has come of his wing play. Mooney and Colclough are far more effective in the wide bits. my first choice team at the moment would be;
Thompson
Senior
White
Hannigan
Mullarkey
Moult
Mooney
Smith
Ceesay
Hancock
Colclough
with Kosylo being interchangable with Mooney, Ceesay, Hancock or Colclough if needs be or on rotation.
Mullarkey made a huge differnce when he came on. He gives the impression that even when picking up the ball on the edge of our own 18 yard box his head is up and looking where the goal is.
My first choice would be :-
Thompson
Senior
Hampson
Hannigan
Mullarkey
Moult
Smith
RW Kosylo
LW Colclough
No.10 Hancock
ST Ceesay
Not much in Hampson or White but I do think Connor defends and attacks slightly better than White.
Sutton is very good but Mullarkey has the pace.
Kosylo would be my first choice wide player. He gets us up the pitch as seen on numerous occasions already. Then you just can't leave the quality of Colclough out. Unfortunately Mooney loses out but top player to bring on. All the wide players will get decent minutes.
I love all of Colclough, Hancock, Kosylo and Mooney - all of whom are more technically strong and retain the ball much more effectively than Ceesay.
I'd still be curious to see one of the last combinations we haven't tried - Kosylo in 10 and Hancock up front.
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All great options but I think we need Ceesay's pace up top. Already charged two keepers down. Plus with those long legs he will get players booked. No harm in giving him a few straight games up top, especially as we have the wide players back.
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I'm with Marple Alty on this one. It makes more sense to me to have Hanks at 9 and Kosy at 10 and then rotate 2 of Mooney, Ceesay and Colclough out wide.
For me, it would be White over Hampson unless it was tactically advantageous to select a more attacking full back - White is a far superior defender in my view.
Selecting 2 out of Sutton, Hannigan and Mullarky is impossible, completely impossible.
Luckily, Smith and Moult select themselves - would love it now if Smith committed for the season - come on Ali.
Never thought I'd live to say this and I hope it's not tempting fate, but I reckon TT has been the best keeper I've seen in the league this season!
Some great selection dilemmas for a great manager.
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Was interesting the read the Halifax forum (their lot have always seemed quite measured to be honest) prior to our game, and go back to the thread discussing Kosylo when he signed for us - that he clearly thrives from being the 'main man' - I think he'd be in his element at No10 and I think it would be great to have such a combative one too.
The argument around Ceesay is a fair one - I think he'd have even more impact against tired legs for half an hour, whether that's on the wing or up front, as you say - we now have the fluidity to do things like move Hancock between 9&10, and Kozzy between 10 & the wing, give the opposition new things to think about with different players and styles in the 2nd half.
Brilliant dilemma to have, and I can't remember us having such a luxury before.
Also worth mentioning we have Sean Williams to come back, who I've always been a big fan of.
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You would think one of them would be good enough to stake a claim to challenging Tom as first choice striker .So far none of them have but Blyth does have a half decent pedigree as does Harrison .If they dont work out have Fylde got any strikers we could get on loan ?
Fylde have got this guy called Hulme. Bit of an unknown quantity.
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You would think one of them would be good enough to stake a claim to challenging Tom as first choice striker .So far none of them have but Blyth does have a half decent pedigree as does Harrison .If they dont work out have Fylde got any strikers we could get on loan ?
Fylde have got this guy called Hulme. Bit of an unknown quantity.
Does Blyth have a track record. 15 goals in 9 season after leaving county football doesn't strike me (excuse the pun) as prolific? - that's less than Simon Richman (19 goals since 2012 season)
A decent season in Midland, an okay season in the Midland prem and then a good season in the SPL.
Parky needs to stop relying on broken players and find a proper replacement; the higher you go the bigger the margin in player quality. You can tinker in the NPL and get players up to speed over a few weeks, they'll get found up quicker.
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Was interesting the read the Halifax forum (their lot have always seemed quite measured to be honest) prior to our game, and go back to the thread discussing Kosylo when he signed for us - that he clearly thrives from being the 'main man' - I think he'd be in his element at No10 and I think it would be great to have such a combative one too.
The argument around Ceesay is a fair one - I think he'd have even more impact against tired legs for half an hour, whether that's on the wing or up front, as you say - we now have the fluidity to do things like move Hancock between 9&10, and Kozzy between 10 & the wing, give the opposition new things to think about with different players and styles in the 2nd half.
Brilliant dilemma to have, and I can't remember us having such a luxury before.
Also worth mentioning we have Sean Williams to come back, who I've always been a big fan of.
All about opinions but Kosylo drives us up the pitch and I feel that we would miss that with him as No.10.
Plus Hancock on his game is our best No.10.
I think Ceesay is getting better and fitter each game and he brings something totally different to the team.
With Kossy driving us, Hancock linking play, Ceesay up top closing down or even stretching CB's out wide to open up gaps for the others to drive into and the class above of Colclough we will cause every team we play a load of issues throughout 90mins.
Fan of Mooney but he is sometimes rash and reminds me of a dog chasing a ball. At times against Stockport in that first half he was back in defence before Moult and Smith on their attacks and that is not what we need.
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You would think one of them would be good enough to stake a claim to challenging Tom as first choice striker .So far none of them have but Blyth does have a half decent pedigree as does Harrison .If they dont work out have Fylde got any strikers we could get on loan ?
Fylde have got this guy called Hulme. Bit of an unknown quantity.
I was a big big fan of Jordan but I'm afraid, like when the question of JJ returning arose, I believe we've moved on since then.
Jordan was immense for us but he wanted to move, we let him, and we've all moved on now.
Let's cherish the memories and leave it at that.
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The problem in replacing jordon is the same as the reason he left in the first place. Good players want to be full time to improve and be the best they can. It’s all well and good saying we need to get a proper replacement but we have to fish in the part time pool and that has limited talent in it. Ceesay may well be the best option out there
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It feels to me as if we play a different style without Jordan, i'm not sure thats because hes not there or because of the change in attacking midfielders. If he ever became available i'd have him back no problem, i'm really not too sure what we are looking for in a striker, if its simply to put the ball in the net ceesays goals vs stockport were very good
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The problem in replacing jordon is the same as the reason he left in the first place. Good players want to be full time to improve and be the best they can. It’s all well and good saying we need to get a proper replacement but we have to fish in the part time pool and that has limited talent in it. Ceesay may well be the best option out there
Cisse was a FT footballer. Sutton was a FT footballer - albeit it on the way down.
We've not even looked at loan players - which given our record with loan signing (which is pretty impeccable) I thought would be the obvious option - even if we had to use the cash to subsidise a player.
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Blyth and McDonald have been released - see Club site.
So what's the latest on this "news"?
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The problem in replacing jordon is the same as the reason he left in the first place. Good players want to be full time to improve and be the best they can. It’s all well and good saying we need to get a proper replacement but we have to fish in the part time pool and that has limited talent in it. Ceesay may well be the best option out there
Cisse was a FT footballer. Sutton was a FT footballer - albeit it on the way down.
We've not even looked at loan players - which given our record with loan signing (which is pretty impeccable) I thought would be the obvious option - even if we had to use the cash to subsidise a player.
I've had conversations with Wrexham and Chester fans before about the part/full time issue.
As full time non-league clubs they are fishing at the very bottom of the pool of full time players. As an optimistic Alty fan I would say we are no worse off fishing at the top of a pool of players who, for whatever reason, prefer part time football. Its got us into a league populated by predominantly full time clubs at the moment.
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Long term that might be true but dislodging someone at the top of the part time tree mid season is a lot harder than picking up players looking for a game at the bottom of the full time pile as we have seen with some other mid season signings in this league
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The problem in replacing jordon is the same as the reason he left in the first place. Good players want to be full time to improve and be the best they can. It’s all well and good saying we need to get a proper replacement but we have to fish in the part time pool and that has limited talent in it. Ceesay may well be the best option out there
Cisse was a FT footballer. Sutton was a FT footballer - albeit it on the way down.
We've not even looked at loan players - which given our record with loan signing (which is pretty impeccable) I thought would be the obvious option - even if we had to use the cash to subsidise a player.
I've had conversations with Wrexham and Chester fans before about the part/full time issue.
As full time non-league clubs they are fishing at the very bottom of the pool of full time players. As an optimistic Alty fan I would say we are no worse off fishing at the top of a pool of players who, for whatever reason, prefer part time football. Its got us into a league populated by predominantly full time clubs at the moment.
I would much rather we had the pick of the best part-time players than the worst of the full-time ones. I think the best part-time players are more motivated. Just a feeling.
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The problem in replacing jordon is the same as the reason he left in the first place. Good players want to be full time to improve and be the best they can. It’s all well and good saying we need to get a proper replacement but we have to fish in the part time pool and that has limited talent in it. Ceesay may well be the best option out there
Cisse was a FT footballer. Sutton was a FT footballer - albeit it on the way down.
We've not even looked at loan players - which given our record with loan signing (which is pretty impeccable) I thought would be the obvious option - even if we had to use the cash to subsidise a player.
I've had conversations with Wrexham and Chester fans before about the part/full time issue.
As full time non-league clubs they are fishing at the very bottom of the pool of full time players. As an optimistic Alty fan I would say we are no worse off fishing at the top of a pool of players who, for whatever reason, prefer part time football. Its got us into a league populated by predominantly full time clubs at the moment.
I would much rather we had the pick of the best part-time players than the worst of the full-time ones. I think the best part-time players are more motivated. Just a feeling.
I think sometimes though if the job they take is to make ends meet and a number of players would do either
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The lad Cardwell at Chorley looks decent.
Big and strong, holds up well but has a good touch too.
Difficult to evaluate a player from highlights but watching whole game today he looks better than okay
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The lad Cardwell at Chorley looks decent.
Big and strong, holds up well but has a good touch too.
Difficult to evaluate a player from highlights but watching whole game today he looks better than okay
Only managed 1 goal in 39 games at Grimsby.
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Blyth and McDonald have been released - see Club site.
So what's the latest on this "news"?
Have I missed it, or has there been nothing more on this item?
Actually, I'm not quite sure who's still with us as strikers apart from Fis, Peers and Harrison and on what terms (i e. Contract / loan / short term deal / just training with us etc)
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I think signed and just training with us are effectively the same thing as if PP ever wants to look at them in a game they have to be signed up. Doesn’t mean we are paying more than expenses though. I think the signed on a short term deal type announcement is really only a mid season trialist.
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Yes but who's still here and who isn't? I think that's what I was getting at.
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I can pick this one up as I don't want anyone getting frustrated with the lack of information.
Strikers that are with the club presently: Tom Peers, Fisayo Adarabioyo, Byron Harrison, Lewis Salmon
Jacob Blyth and Jamie McDonald are indeed no longer with the club.
An article was posted 04/01 publicising this information. The article was removed, along with the social media posts.
I hope they won't mind me saying that this was at the request of the management team, and it was done as to not hinder the players' chances of finding another club or do them a disservice. The club's media team facilitated this request.
I suppose being 'released' mid season can put a negative slant on what was effectively a trial with Altrincham, as Phil Parkinson alluded to in a recent post match interview.
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Thanks for that Andrew. Much appreciated 👍
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Thanks for the update.
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I can pick this one up as I don't want anyone getting frustrated with the lack of information.
Strikers that are with the club presently: Tom Peers, Fisayo Adarabioyo, Byron Harrison, Lewis Salmon
Jacob Blyth and Jamie McDonald are indeed no longer with the club.
An article was posted 04/01 publicising this information. The article was removed, along with the social media posts.
I hope they won't mind me saying that this was at the request of the management team, and it was done as to not hinder the players' chances of finding another club or do them a disservice. The club's media team facilitated this request.
I suppose being 'released' mid season can put a negative slant on what was effectively a trial with Altrincham, as Phil Parkinson alluded to in a recent post match interview.
Cheers for the update mate.
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Yes, thanks for the update - very useful.
As discussed previously, Byron Harrison has probably done enough in his brief flashes to show he might have some promise yet.
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Jacob Blyth has got fixed up with a new club quickly enough as he has just joined Gateshead, although he wasn't involved in their 16 when they beat Guiseley this evening.
https://www.gateshead-fc.com/news/jacob-blyth-joins-2595339.html (https://www.gateshead-fc.com/news/jacob-blyth-joins-2595339.html)
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Feel today's result has ended our playoff chances but I am hoping we continue with our strongest 11 each week.
I believe we can make the playoffs next season but it is very obvious we need to cut out the cheap goals and finish the numerous chances we create.
We need to clear out all strikers apart from Piggott and bring in a proven goalscorer at the very least.
In the meantime we should give Hanks a go up top, Hardy no.10 with Colclough and Kossy out wide.
Hardy deserves some game time, he looks very comfortable and it is just ridiculous how Ceesay and Peers are getting chances ahead of him.
Ceesay has been very underwhelming this season. Confidence has gone but doesn't help playing him right. He is poor at cutting in and his strength is going on the outside of defenders with pace.
Peers plays with all the effort in the world but he is a level too high. The likes of Harrison and Fis are way way off.
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I just wonder if Hardy is (match) fit yet (as with Piglett), which is why he's not getting as much game time as we'd like.
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(proven goalscorer) , Piggott, Peers.
If we sign an out and out goalscorer, I'm happy to keep Peers as option 3, 20 minutes, Fa trophy, CSC.
Too much hype around Pigott given the minutes he's played so far.
Peers must not start in the national league. We've yet to win a game when he starts. It's nearly Easter. It's dangerous.
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It's tough at the moment, because we have at least 4 (possibly 5) forward players who are unable to contribute for us but have absolutely nowhere to go given the annulment of lower level football.
Surely we need to make the best of what we have available. It's got to be Hanks at 9. Nothing else makes any sense. Kysolo can play at 10. Colclough is our best striker by a country mile and Hardy and Mooney can fight for the other position. We've got to stop mucking about with players who have either nothing or very little to offer or we're not going to get many more points.
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It's tough at the moment, because we have at least 4 (possibly 5) forward players who are unable to contribute for us but have absolutely nowhere to go given the annulment of lower level football.
Surely we need to make the best of what we have available. It's got to be Hanks at 9. Nothing else makes any sense. Kysolo can play at 10. Colclough is our best striker by a country mile and Hardy and Mooney can fight for the other position. We've got to stop mucking about with players who have either nothing or very little to offer or we're not going to get many more points.
Yes. That's about the strength of it.
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It's tough at the moment, because we have at least 4 (possibly 5) forward players who are unable to contribute for us but have absolutely nowhere to go given the annulment of lower level football.
Surely we need to make the best of what we have available. It's got to be Hanks at 9. Nothing else makes any sense. Kysolo can play at 10. Colclough is our best striker by a country mile and Hardy and Mooney can fight for the other position. We've got to stop mucking about with players who have either nothing or very little to offer or we're not going to get many more points.
I agree with this 100%. I actually think Kosylo's combative style at No10 works better at this level anyway. Nothing to say you can't slot Hancock back in there later in games when we need to take Kosylo off to simmer down!
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Byron Harrison has been released by Altrincham after a three-month stay at The J.Davidson Stadium. From OS.
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Byron Harrison has been released by Altrincham after a three-month stay at The J.Davidson Stadium. From OS.
Is that same Byron that wasn't deemed good enough by fans who were then told we didn't get football?
Its a worry if Peers is our only fit striker.
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First three games he played, we got a decent return of 7 points. His next five games saw defeats.
Not fair to draw any conclusions from the points tally, but I guess he was worth a punt and the search continues
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What's the status of Adarabioyo?
If he's still injured, now Harrison has left, as Hashtag says, we only have Peers as a striker unless Piggott is almost ready?
Makes you wonder if someone else is being sourced behind the scenes. I hope so.
If that is the case, perhaps Adarabioyo could be the next to leave? This might leave something in the budget to fund a new arrival who could start as a number nine.
Of course this is all pure speculation but interesting.
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Link to confirmation Byron has left..
https://www.altrinchamfc.com/news/byron-leaves-robins
Last I heard Fis was injured and building up to getting playing again. Maybe a second wind will leave room to impress. although how does he get match fit? Unless he plays.
Maybe a newcomer is on the way....
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Shaun Goater seen in tesco
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What's the status of Adarabioyo?
If he's still injured, now Harrison has left, as Hashtag says, we only have Peers as a striker unless Piggott is almost ready?
Makes you wonder if someone else is being sourced behind the scenes. I hope so.
If that is the case, perhaps Adarabioyo could be the next to leave? This might leave something in the budget to fund a new arrival who could start as a number nine.
Of course this is all pure speculation but interesting.
If we've another striker solution in the pipeline he has to be primed and ready to go. If he turns out to be crocked we are going to have to redesign our stadium plans to incorporate a much enlarged treatment room in order to cope. 😂
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Byron Harrison has been released by Altrincham after a three-month stay at The J.Davidson Stadium. From OS.
Is that same Byron that wasn't deemed good enough by fans who were then told we didn't get football?
Its a worry if Peers is our only fit striker.
You rarely go wrong if you take an average of opinions across the fan forum of a club that have had players previously.
With Harrison, well... it was pretty conclusive.
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I'm amazed so many clubs have given him a try. There must be some good Youtube videos of him out there somewhere.
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Byron Harrison has been released by Altrincham after a three-month stay at The J.Davidson Stadium. From OS.
Is that same Byron that wasn't deemed good enough by fans who were then told we didn't get football?
Its a worry if Peers is our only fit striker.
You mean the same fans that wrote off Hancock as not good enough for the conference or that Kosylo was a liability? As supporters we're all brash and often rush into a quick judgement of players. Tom Hannigan was written off straight away as was Nicky Clee too I seem to remember. Obviously on this occasion it hasn't worked out but it wouldn't have been the first time Phil has taken someone that hasn't fired somewhere else or that has lost their way and turned them into a proper player.
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Byron Harrison has been released by Altrincham after a three-month stay at The J.Davidson Stadium. From OS.
Is that same Byron that wasn't deemed good enough by fans who were then told we didn't get football?
Its a worry if Peers is our only fit striker.
You mean the same fans that wrote off Hancock as not good enough for the conference or that Kosylo was a liability? As supporters we're all brash and often rush into a quick judgement of players. Tom Hannigan was written off straight away as was Nicky Clee too I seem to remember. Obviously on this occasion it hasn't worked out but it wouldn't have been the first time Phil has taken someone that hasn't fired somewhere else or that has lost their way and turned them into a proper player.
Harrison is a decent, honest, hardworking player, held the ball up well and often brought the 7, 10 & 11 into play. Parkie always seemed happy with his performance.
Alas, just not the goalscorer we needed!
I wish him well.
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Byron Harrison has been released by Altrincham after a three-month stay at The J.Davidson Stadium. From OS.
Is that same Byron that wasn't deemed good enough by fans who were then told we didn't get football?
Its a worry if Peers is our only fit striker.
You rarely go wrong if you take an average of opinions across the fan forum of a club that have had players previously.
With Harrison, well... it was pretty conclusive.
Harrison spent a total of 477 minutes in an Alty shirt without ever looking like scoring a goal.
His extraordinary and lamentable miss at Barnet will at least live in the memory, as he is certainly not destined to be elevated to the status of 'Alty legend'.
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I'm sure everyone at Alty will wish Byron well and thank him for his efforts. Saying that, it was absolutely the right decision to release him.
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Stockport have just signed Paddy Madden from Fleetwood. A big statement of intent apparently although may push a couple of their strikers down the pecking order
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You mean the same fans that wrote off Hancock as not good enough for the conference or that Kosylo was a liability?
I seem to have been somewhat misunderstood as regards Kosylo. I wasn't suggesting that he was in any way a poor player. However, his disciplinary record is a real worry. Opponents know how easy it is to wind him up. At least twice this season he's been substituted because he'd become angry - when he goes off we have to reshuffle. When he's suspended we have to find someone else to do his job - and that isn't an easy call.
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You mean the same fans that wrote off Hancock as not good enough for the conference or that Kosylo was a liability?
I seem to have been somewhat misunderstood as regards Kosylo. I wasn't suggesting that he was in any way a poor player. However, his disciplinary record is a real worry. Opponents know how easy it is to wind him up. At least twice this season he's been substituted because he'd become angry - when he goes off we have to reshuffle. When he's suspended we have to find someone else to do his job - and that isn't an easy call.
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That's exactly where I was coming from too.
Regarding Stockport's new signing their fans were moaning about a lack of firepower up front just before their 0 - 5 victory last week. They seem to have a similar problem to us.
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Let's hope we get a similar outcome tonight then! 😊😊
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Shaun Goater seen in tesco
Could he still be recognised wearing a mask?
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Makes you wonder if someone else is being sourced behind the scenes. I hope so.
I must be psychic! 😉
Welcome to Alty, Nyal!
Make a name for yourself mate and get the net bulging for us tonight!!
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Stockport have just signed Paddy Madden from Fleetwood. A big statement of intent apparently although may push a couple of their strikers down the pecking order
Says on the JL site that the Blackpool paper gave the Madden transfer fee as £250,000! 😲😲😲😲
That CAN'T be accurate surely?
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Those of a certain vintage will recall one Andy Green.
He was bonkers, the original Mr Angry but he scored goals and disturbed defenders.
You didn't have to know how to wind him up...he came, to use a phrase "oven ready". If you had taken that aggression away he wouldn't have been half the player for us that he was.
Ken McKenna was no shrinking violet either and nor is Kosylo.
If you want the effectiveness you sometimes have to carry the baggage that comes with it
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Those of a certain vintage will recall one Andy Green.
He was bonkers, the original Mr Angry but he scored goals and disturbed defenders.
You didn't have to know how to wind him up...he came, to use a phrase "oven ready". If you had taken that aggression away he wouldn't have been half the player for us that he was.
Ken McKenna was no shrinking violet either and nor is Kosylo.
If you want the effectiveness you sometimes have to carry the baggage that comes with it
Agreed... see also a certain Mr Hulme.
Rather have players with fire in their bellies than the softies we've had in certain regimes like the Sinnott era, where we played some nice stuff but got steamrolled right down the middle of the park.
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Those of a certain vintage will recall one Andy Green.
He was bonkers, the original Mr Angry but he scored goals and disturbed defenders.
You didn't have to know how to wind him up...he came, to use a phrase "oven ready". If you had taken that aggression away he wouldn't have been half the player for us that he was.
Ken McKenna was no shrinking violet either and nor is Kosylo.
If you want the effectiveness you sometimes have to carry the baggage that comes with it
Agreed... see also a certain Mr Hulme.
Rather have players with fire in their bellies than the softies we've had in certain regimes like the Sinnott era, where we played some nice stuff but got steamrolled right down the middle of the park.
Softies in the Sinnott era like Walshaw and Perry?
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Those of a certain vintage will recall one Andy Green.
He was bonkers, the original Mr Angry but he scored goals and disturbed defenders.
You didn't have to know how to wind him up...he came, to use a phrase "oven ready". If you had taken that aggression away he wouldn't have been half the player for us that he was.
Ken McKenna was no shrinking violet either and nor is Kosylo.
If you want the effectiveness you sometimes have to carry the baggage that comes with it
Didn't Steve Connors play for Sinnott?
Agreed... see also a certain Mr Hulme.
Rather have players with fire in their bellies than the softies we've had in certain regimes like the Sinnott era, where we played some nice stuff but got steamrolled right down the middle of the park.
Softies in the Sinnott era like Walshaw and Perry?
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Good job Kingy isn't playing nowadays. He'd probably get ten years. 😂😂😂😂
But who would have had him any other way?
JK and Gerry Casey were worth a goal start before we even got on the pitch.
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Those of a certain vintage will recall one Andy Green.
He was bonkers, the original Mr Angry but he scored goals and disturbed defenders.
You didn't have to know how to wind him up...he came, to use a phrase "oven ready". If you had taken that aggression away he wouldn't have been half the player for us that he was.
Ken McKenna was no shrinking violet either and nor is Kosylo.
If you want the effectiveness you sometimes have to carry the baggage that comes with it
I understand your point, however the abiding frustration with Kosylo (and I do rate him as a player) is that the majority of his yellow cards are largely avoidable in that they are received for dissent or, frankly, inane actions rather than for not being a 'shrinking violet'.
I recall a ridiculous booking at Chesterfield for a stupid pull on an opponent's shirt when they we deep inside their own half and not presenting any major threat. Plus last night's caution appeared to be for a few 'choice' comments directed towards the referee.
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Those of a certain vintage will recall one Andy Green.
He was bonkers, the original Mr Angry but he scored goals and disturbed defenders.
You didn't have to know how to wind him up...he came, to use a phrase "oven ready". If you had taken that aggression away he wouldn't have been half the player for us that he was.
Ken McKenna was no shrinking violet either and nor is Kosylo.
If you want the effectiveness you sometimes have to carry the baggage that comes with it
Didn't Steve Connors play for Sinnott?
Agreed... see also a certain Mr Hulme.
Rather have players with fire in their bellies than the softies we've had in certain regimes like the Sinnott era, where we played some nice stuff but got steamrolled right down the middle of the park.
Softies in the Sinnott era like Walshaw and Perry?
No, Steve Connors was signed on loan by Ken McKenna during the second half of the 2010/11 relegation season.
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Those of a certain vintage will recall one Andy Green.
He was bonkers, the original Mr Angry but he scored goals and disturbed defenders.
You didn't have to know how to wind him up...he came, to use a phrase "oven ready". If you had taken that aggression away he wouldn't have been half the player for us that he was.
Ken McKenna was no shrinking violet either and nor is Kosylo.
If you want the effectiveness you sometimes have to carry the baggage that comes with it
Didn't Steve Connors play for Sinnott?
Agreed... see also a certain Mr Hulme.
Rather have players with fire in their bellies than the softies we've had in certain regimes like the Sinnott era, where we played some nice stuff but got steamrolled right down the middle of the park.
Softies in the Sinnott era like Walshaw and Perry?
No, Steve Connors was signed on loan by Ken McKenna during the second half of the 2010/11 relegation season.
Cheers
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Those of a certain vintage will recall one Andy Green.
He was bonkers, the original Mr Angry but he scored goals and disturbed defenders.
You didn't have to know how to wind him up...he came, to use a phrase "oven ready". If you had taken that aggression away he wouldn't have been half the player for us that he was.
Ken McKenna was no shrinking violet either and nor is Kosylo.
If you want the effectiveness you sometimes have to carry the baggage that comes with it
Agreed... see also a certain Mr Hulme
Rather have players with fire in their bellies than the softies we've had in certain regimes like the Sinnott era, where we played some nice stuff but got steamrolled right down the middle of the park.
Class act Andy Green.