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Title: Phil Parkinson : "We need too many opportunities to score a goal"
Post by: TheCultOfIanTunnacliffe on April 08, 2021, 07:25:47 PM

https://www.altrinchamfc.com/news/phil-parkinson-we-need-too-many-opportunities-to-score-a-goal (https://www.altrinchamfc.com/news/phil-parkinson-we-need-too-many-opportunities-to-score-a-goal)


Alas, this problem is blatantly demonstrated by the respective minutes played and goals scored statistics relating to the forwards who have been recruited this season:


Fisayo Adarabioyo

Minutes: 456.
Goals: 1.

(Unfortunately for him, the 1-0 victory at Dover Athletic has been expunged from the records, thereby halving his goals tally).


Nyal Bell

Minutes: 69.
Goals: 0.


Jacob Blyth

Minutes: 79.
Goals: 0.


Max Clayton

Minutes: 7.
Goals: 0.


Montel Gibson

Minutes: 88.
Goals: 0.


Byron Harrison

Minutes: 476.
Goals: 0.


Jamie McDonald

Minutes: 71.
Goals: 1.


Joe Piggott

Minutes: 442.
Goals: 0.

Title: Re: Phil Parkinson : "We need too many opportunities to score a goal"
Post by: robininstockport on April 08, 2021, 09:51:17 PM
Grim reading that
Title: Re: Phil Parkinson : "We need too many opportunities to score a goal"
Post by: One Foot in the Grave on April 08, 2021, 11:10:25 PM
1,688 minutes, 2 goals. It makes Peers look positively prolific.
Title: Re: Phil Parkinson : "We need too many opportunities to score a goal"
Post by: Hale Alty on April 09, 2021, 04:34:39 AM
Hulme's decision to jump ship on the eve of the  season looks even more disastrous in hindsight. Of course there's no guarantee that he would have been as prolific at this level. We've not had his goals and he's not had any football.
Title: Re: Phil Parkinson : "We need too many opportunities to score a goal"
Post by: Inter Alty! on April 09, 2021, 07:33:00 AM
This all highlights what we all already know, including Parky, that our problem area is a quality striker and lack of goals...

It is hard to find a good one during a season as most will be under contract if any good (plus any furloughed by clubs probably picked up if decent)... hopefully this will be addressed in the summer close season by Parky & the Board...
Title: Re: Phil Parkinson : "We need too many opportunities to score a goal"
Post by: Saughall Robin on April 09, 2021, 10:56:55 AM
What's the stats on Tom Peers?
Title: Re: Phil Parkinson : "We need too many opportunities to score a goal"
Post by: Seth on April 09, 2021, 11:42:09 AM
What's the stats on Tom Peers?

League: 1386 mins 3 goals
Cup: 251 mins 3 goals
Title: Re: Phil Parkinson : "We need too many opportunities to score a goal"
Post by: One Foot in the Grave on April 09, 2021, 11:49:33 AM
What's the stats on Tom Peers?

So it takes him 462 minutes to score in the League. I'd tend to take no notice of the Cup goals as they weren't scored against clubs at our level.

If he came on after an hour every game, we could expect 3 goals a season.

League: 1386 mins 3 goals
Cup: 251 mins 3 goals
Title: Re: Phil Parkinson : "We need too many opportunities to score a goal"
Post by: One Foot in the Grave on April 09, 2021, 11:58:27 AM
Obviously, Nyal Bell is the most prolific proven National League striker we have, since he's scored 3 for Halifax this season, and 6 for Stockport last season. Which is why leaving him on the bench simply doesn't make sense.
Title: Re: Phil Parkinson : "We need too many opportunities to score a goal"
Post by: Martin on April 09, 2021, 05:44:52 PM
Obviously, Nyal Bell is the most prolific proven National League striker we have, since he's scored 3 for Halifax this season, and 6 for Stockport last season. Which is why leaving him on the bench simply doesn't make sense.

In a season where we're not going to be promoted or relegated, In my opinion I think it's best to play the striker who will be playing for us next season. Piggott hadn't played much before resigning for us so giving him minutes is the best option for me.
Title: Re: Phil Parkinson : "We need too many opportunities to score a goal"
Post by: MarpleAlty on April 09, 2021, 06:14:20 PM
Obviously, Nyal Bell is the most prolific proven National League striker we have, since he's scored 3 for Halifax this season, and 6 for Stockport last season. Which is why leaving him on the bench simply doesn't make sense.

In a season where we're not going to be promoted or relegated, In my opinion I think it's best to play the striker who will be playing for us next season. Piggott hadn't played much before resigning for us so giving him minutes is the best option for me.

Bell will almost certainly be deemed surplus to requirements at Stockport - especially if they end up being promoted - therefore if there's a goalscorer in there, we've had a perfect chance to push ourselves to the front of the queue.
Title: Re: Phil Parkinson : "We need too many opportunities to score a goal"
Post by: JD on April 09, 2021, 07:59:10 PM
Aguero chosen a new club yet?
Title: Re: Phil Parkinson : "We need too many opportunities to score a goal"
Post by: One Foot in the Grave on April 09, 2021, 10:26:29 PM
Where is Chris Senior these days ?
Title: Re: Phil Parkinson : "We need too many opportunities to score a goal"
Post by: Saughall Robin on April 09, 2021, 10:51:40 PM
Where is Chris Senior these days ?
Think he's still out injured isn't he?
Title: Re: Phil Parkinson : "We need too many opportunities to score a goal"
Post by: Inter Alty! on April 10, 2021, 07:56:30 AM
The alternative Alty website 'The Alty Files' has this piece...

THE ALTY STRIKE RATE

This week Phil Parkinson has publicly called on his forwards to be more effective in front of goal and the following table indicates the squad's current strike rate in the National League.

Including the now voided game against Dover Athletic, Alty have scored 38 goals in the league this season to date. On average they net a goal roughly every 80 minutes.

Discounting the five penalties netted by Josh Hancock, that leaves 33 goals from open play in 34 games. These have been scored by the following players...

Jamie McDonald 1 goal, or a goal every 70 minutes on the pitch - striker
Dan Mooney 2 goals, or a goal every 255 minutes on the pitch - winger
Fisayo Adarabioyo 2 goals, or a goal every 262 minutes on the pitch - striker
Ryan Colclough 5 goals, or a goal every 276 minutes on the pitch - winger
James Hardy 1 goals, or a goal every 347 minutes on the pitch - winger
Josh Hancock 6 goals, or a goal every 393 minutes on the pitch - forward
Tom Peers 3 goals, or a goal every 460 minutes on the pitch - striker
Ritchie Sutton2 goals, or a goal every 539 minutes on the pitch - defender
Yusifu Ceesay 3 goals, or a goal every 561 minutes on the pitch - winger/striker
Matty Kosylo 3 goals, or a goal every 745 minutes on the pitch - winger
Jake Moult 2 goals, or a goal every 1,416 minutes on the pitch - midfielder
Connor Hampson 1 goals, or a goal every 1,445 minutes on the pitch - defender
Toby Mullarkey 1 goal, or a goal every 1,597 minutes on the pitch - defender
Alistair Smith 1 goals, or a goal every 2,088 minutes on the pitch - midfielder

Those who have played 400+ minutes but have not scored at all in the league are the following:

Joel Senior 2,751 mins - defender
Tom Hannigan 2,555 mins - defender
Andy White 996 mins - defender
Billy Sass-Savies 532 mins - defender
Byron Harrison 479 mins - striker
Sean Williams 478 mins - midfielder
Joe Piggott 442 mins - striker
Shaun Densmore 434 mins - defender
Simon Richman 418 mins - midfielder
Regan Oagle 408 mins - defender
Title: Re: Phil Parkinson : "We need too many opportunities to score a goal"
Post by: rorysgrandad on April 10, 2021, 09:01:35 AM
The alternative Alty website 'The Alty Files' has this piece...

THE ALTY STRIKE RATE

This week Phil Parkinson has publicly called on his forwards to be more effective in front of goal and the following table indicates the squad's current strike rate in the National League.

Including the now voided game against Dover Athletic, Alty have scored 38 goals in the league this season to date. On average they net a goal roughly every 80 minutes.

Discounting the five penalties netted by Josh Hancock, that leaves 33 goals from open play in 34 games. These have been scored by the following players...

Jamie McDonald 1 goal, or a goal every 70 minutes on the pitch - striker
Dan Mooney 2 goals, or a goal every 255 minutes on the pitch - winger
Fisayo Adarabioyo 2 goals, or a goal every 262 minutes on the pitch - striker
Ryan Colclough 5 goals, or a goal every 276 minutes on the pitch - winger
James Hardy 1 goals, or a goal every 347 minutes on the pitch - winger
Josh Hancock 6 goals, or a goal every 393 minutes on the pitch - forward
Tom Peers 3 goals, or a goal every 460 minutes on the pitch - striker
Ritchie Sutton2 goals, or a goal every 539 minutes on the pitch - defender
Yusifu Ceesay 3 goals, or a goal every 561 minutes on the pitch - winger/striker
Matty Kosylo 3 goals, or a goal every 745 minutes on the pitch - winger
Jake Moult 2 goals, or a goal every 1,416 minutes on the pitch - midfielder
Connor Hampson 1 goals, or a goal every 1,445 minutes on the pitch - defender
Toby Mullarkey 1 goal, or a goal every 1,597 minutes on the pitch - defender
Alistair Smith 1 goals, or a goal every 2,088 minutes on the pitch - midfielder

Those who have played 400+ minutes but have not scored at all in the league are the following:

Joel Senior 2,751 mins - defender
Tom Hannigan 2,555 mins - defender
Andy White 996 mins - defender
Billy Sass-Savies 532 mins - defender
Byron Harrison 479 mins - striker
Sean Williams 478 mins - midfielder
Joe Piggott 442 mins - striker
Shaun Densmore 434 mins - defender
Simon Richman 418 mins - midfielder
Regan Oagle 408 mins - defender
Just to prove stats can prove anything, we should never have let Jamie McDonald go!
Title: Re: Phil Parkinson : "We need too many opportunities to score a goal"
Post by: One Foot in the Grave on April 10, 2021, 09:22:22 AM
Any half decent striker at this level should average a goal every three games (270 minutes, 15 goals per season). Only Colclough comes close, although Hancock qualifies easily if you include the penalties - and a good striker would win us a fair few penalties. We have quite some way to go yet, and our close season business is going to be crucial if we are really going to step on next term. To match the board's aspirations, we really have to become genuine playoff contenders. This is really a mediocre league, and if we start scoring regularly we're perfectly capable of competing at the upper end - the striker situation is clearly the most important problem to be solved.
Title: Re: Phil Parkinson : "We need too many opportunities to score a goal"
Post by: Saughall Robin on April 10, 2021, 09:53:47 AM
Just a few thoughts.
Firstly, I don't think this is a mediocre league. It's a fairly level one and very professional and wins are typically by small margins hence PP being so keen on FT and more training time.
Also, strikers who are likely to score the number of goals we need to be challenging or, at least competitive, will be much easier to attract if we're offering a FT or at least hybrid contract.
With those those things in mind, I agree that recruitment for next season will be crucial but, because of the move towards full time, I think it might be easier than if we were looking at the part time pool of strikers. I'm hoping to be pleasantly surprised with the players PP can now attract and bring in.
Title: Re: Phil Parkinson : "We need too many opportunities to score a goal"
Post by: Inter Alty! on April 10, 2021, 10:29:41 AM
I must admit i'm buzzing about the future vision and news about Parky, potential Full Time footy within year or two, new Puma deal, ground renovations confirmed as meeting Football League requirements(something else Bill mentioned last night) & we'll continue to improve these & the club as plans evolve...

That said, no matter what league you play in any Club can only really be as successful as it's football team that goes out onto the pitch - results & league position are what Football Teams are judged by and as Parky himself said last night he knows if things don't work out in the coming years he'll be sacked...

Hence getting the players in that are of a quality to improve the squad & challenge for promotion is a priority for the summer... Parky knows the need for a striker is the main issue as any club needs goals... at present all the decent strikers will be under contract but hopefully during the summer break Parky can find that striking talisman who can score 20plus goals per season & push us towards promotion - the carrot of hybrid/FT football will certainly help attain that 'goal'... In Parky we Trust!
Title: Re: Phil Parkinson : "We need too many opportunities to score a goal"
Post by: Timperley The Best on April 10, 2021, 10:33:12 AM
Just a few thoughts.
Firstly, I don't think this is a mediocre league. It's a fairly level one and very professional and wins are typically by small margins hence PP being so keen on FT and more training time.
Also, strikers who are likely to score the number of goals we need to be challenging or, at least competitive, will be much easier to attract if we're offering a FT or at least hybrid contract.
With those those things in mind, I agree that recruitment for next season will be crucial but, because of the move towards full time, I think it might be easier than if we were looking at the part time pool of strikers. I'm hoping to be pleasantly surprised with the players PP can now attract and bring in.

Agreed ,we've brought  in the likes of Senior , Colclough and Smith who could play in the football league imo. If  the close season signings presuming there will be a handful  are  of a  similar standard  it will be looking good for  next season .
Title: Re: Phil Parkinson : "We need too many opportunities to score a goal"
Post by: Inter Alty! on April 10, 2021, 10:36:42 AM
Agree Smith, Colclough, Senior are class players... looking forward to some good further additions in summer - particularly a decent striker... fingers crossed!
Title: Re: Phil Parkinson : "We need too many opportunities to score a goal"
Post by: Hugh on April 13, 2021, 04:47:46 AM
What's the stats on Tom Peers?

League: 1386 mins 3 goals
Cup: 251 mins 3 goals

Thank you. So by my calculations,  equivalent to one goal every three games then (plus at least a couple of disallowed goals). All from open play weren't they? So the same from open play as Hancock (he scored 5 penalties) - or more if some of his were from free kicks. And in a team that are the 18th best goalscorers (per game) in the NL. Out of 22. (Though admittedly some of that was against Barnton in a CSC game that was too dangerous for us elite supporters to attend. Officially. Even so, one in every 5 games in the NL, or 9 in a season approx).
You know, I was thinking on Saturday, if Peers had missed some of those chances, he'd have got slated. Looks like I might be right. I still say he's a good player to bring on against tiring defences
Title: Re: Phil Parkinson : "We need too many opportunities to score a goal"
Post by: Toff Apple on April 13, 2021, 04:39:35 PM
I'd agree with this if our strikers were getting lots of chances but they are not, we generate few chances in the game but we keep the ball and keep the game tight.  We possibly could create more but effectively we'd be making us easier to score against.  Its a tough one
Title: Re: Phil Parkinson : "We need too many opportunities to score a goal"
Post by: HashtagAlty on April 13, 2021, 05:14:43 PM
The alternative Alty website 'The Alty Files' has this piece...

THE ALTY STRIKE RATE

This week Phil Parkinson has publicly called on his forwards to be more effective in front of goal and the following table indicates the squad's current strike rate in the National League.

Including the now voided game against Dover Athletic, Alty have scored 38 goals in the league this season to date. On average they net a goal roughly every 80 minutes.

Discounting the five penalties netted by Josh Hancock, that leaves 33 goals from open play in 34 games. These have been scored by the following players...

Jamie McDonald 1 goal, or a goal every 70 minutes on the pitch - striker
Dan Mooney 2 goals, or a goal every 255 minutes on the pitch - winger
Fisayo Adarabioyo 2 goals, or a goal every 262 minutes on the pitch - striker
Ryan Colclough 5 goals, or a goal every 276 minutes on the pitch - winger
James Hardy 1 goals, or a goal every 347 minutes on the pitch - winger
Josh Hancock 6 goals, or a goal every 393 minutes on the pitch - forward
Tom Peers 3 goals, or a goal every 460 minutes on the pitch - striker
Ritchie Sutton2 goals, or a goal every 539 minutes on the pitch - defender
Yusifu Ceesay 3 goals, or a goal every 561 minutes on the pitch - winger/striker
Matty Kosylo 3 goals, or a goal every 745 minutes on the pitch - winger
Jake Moult 2 goals, or a goal every 1,416 minutes on the pitch - midfielder
Connor Hampson 1 goals, or a goal every 1,445 minutes on the pitch - defender
Toby Mullarkey 1 goal, or a goal every 1,597 minutes on the pitch - defender
Alistair Smith 1 goals, or a goal every 2,088 minutes on the pitch - midfielder

Those who have played 400+ minutes but have not scored at all in the league are the following:

Joel Senior 2,751 mins - defender
Tom Hannigan 2,555 mins - defender
Andy White 996 mins - defender
Billy Sass-Savies 532 mins - defender
Byron Harrison 479 mins - striker
Sean Williams 478 mins - midfielder
Joe Piggott 442 mins - striker
Shaun Densmore 434 mins - defender
Simon Richman 418 mins - midfielder
Regan Oagle 408 mins - defender
Just to prove stats can prove anything, we should never have let Jamie McDonald go!

Jamie Mcdonald was arguably our best poacher. Right place, right time.
Title: Re: Phil Parkinson : "We need too many opportunities to score a goal"
Post by: robininstockport on April 13, 2021, 05:49:18 PM
I was thinking the same about MacDonald only this afternoon. Must have not impressed in training I guess.

I agree with TA about us not creating multiple chances for the striker. Might be because other players don't have faith in the '9' so don't try and play them in.
Title: Re: Phil Parkinson : "We need too many opportunities to score a goal"
Post by: One Foot in the Grave on April 13, 2021, 11:04:48 PM
I still think we fanny about too much instead of taking a pot at goal. Just think how many goals are scored via a deflection - we don't get those because our shot ratio is poor.