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Title: Stockport Match Thread
Post by: robininstockport on January 09, 2022, 05:47:23 PM
Would imagine same formation as Saturday with Pringle in for an injured Kosylo.

I do expect a far better performance than the away game but I still think they'll have too much for us.

Alty 0-2 Stockport
Title: Re: Stockport Match Thread
Post by: HashtagAlty on January 09, 2022, 05:51:39 PM
Think we'll picking up a point. We're due a result against County at some point.

Having 2 CM who know what they're doing and not playing a back 5 will help
Title: Re: Stockport Match Thread
Post by: Alty Dave on January 09, 2022, 06:12:24 PM
Just hoping we give a good account of ourselves, if Stockport are also below par we might just get a favourable result.

Come on Alty
Title: Re: Stockport Match Thread
Post by: oneedham on January 09, 2022, 07:40:37 PM
Would have a front 4 of :-

LW Colclough
RW Mooney
No.10 Pringle
N0.9 Hulme

Defo stick to our favoured formation. We always look a lot more vulnerable when we change to try and stop the opposition.

I am sure majority of the fans want to see us have a go, rather than try and soak up pressure whilst being like sitting ducks.
Title: Re: Stockport Match Thread
Post by: distancetraveller on January 09, 2022, 10:01:40 PM
Play to our potential and we will be well able to get something against Stockport especially now we have improved the squad considerably, even with the loss of Joel.

They are a good team but we should just play to our strengths and see what we can achieve.

The atmosphere will be superb.

Looking forward to this one..

Onwards & Upwards
Title: Re: Stockport Match Thread
Post by: altyusa on January 10, 2022, 09:23:29 PM
Just hoping we donít get humped again😜
Title: Re: Stockport Match Thread
Post by: Seth on January 11, 2022, 12:06:31 PM
Disappointed that we've given Stockport the end of the pop side. It changes the game in the first half if we're down there. We've waited so long with the ground restrictions to be down there, it's a real kick in the teeth.
Title: Re: Stockport Match Thread
Post by: Saughall Robin on January 11, 2022, 12:20:18 PM
Yes, I agree. Bad news for the singers and for the support they give the team. Gives Stockport another edge unnecessarily.
Title: Re: Stockport Match Thread
Post by: Jacob Screamscrackers on January 11, 2022, 12:25:35 PM
Just DON'T play 5 at the back!
Title: Re: Stockport Match Thread
Post by: Saughall Robin on January 11, 2022, 12:36:34 PM
Just DON'T play 5 at the back!

Even for the last ten minutes! 😉
Title: Re: Stockport Match Thread
Post by: HashtagAlty on January 11, 2022, 12:47:53 PM
Really disappointed if the Pop side top corner is free after not having access since about September it's been declared fit for County.

Title: Re: Stockport Match Thread
Post by: cheshire cat on January 11, 2022, 12:51:12 PM
It's probably more sensible to give them part of the popside than have them quietly buying tickets for the rest of the ground.

Title: Re: Stockport Match Thread
Post by: Seth on January 11, 2022, 01:00:33 PM
It's probably more sensible to give them part of the popside than have them quietly buying tickets for the rest of the ground.

Wrexham didn't have it though. Either way, they will sell out their allocation of tickets.
Title: Re: Stockport Match Thread
Post by: Salfordalty on January 11, 2022, 01:05:39 PM
Disappointed that we've given Stockport the end of the pop side. It changes the game in the first half if we're down there. We've waited so long with the ground restrictions to be down there, it's a real kick in the teeth.

2 arguments to it. It does give them an advantage due to extra numbers and ability to be louder. However we would unlikely sell out if the home fans had that section too. So.from a financial point of view it makes sense
Title: Re: Stockport Match Thread
Post by: HashtagAlty on January 11, 2022, 01:07:43 PM
It's probably more sensible to give them part of the popside than have them quietly buying tickets for the rest of the ground.

We shouldn't be manipulated in giving up advantage because of. Operations
Title: Re: Stockport Match Thread
Post by: Saughall Robin on January 11, 2022, 07:21:09 PM
Can't believe Hulme is on the bench and it looks like we're going with five at the back! 🤯

Hope I'll be feeling silly at 10pm and it's a tactical masterstroke.
Title: Re: Stockport Match Thread
Post by: Timperley The Best on January 11, 2022, 07:27:52 PM
Can't believe Hulme is on the bench and it looks like we're going with five at the back! 🤯

Hope I'll be feeling silly at 10pm and it's a tactical masterstroke.

Looks like 5 at the back lets hope its a different outcome to last  time
Title: Re: Stockport Match Thread
Post by: hsmith1 on January 11, 2022, 07:40:35 PM
surprised at that did not work at stockport so why will it work now
Title: Re: Stockport Match Thread
Post by: MarpleAlty on January 11, 2022, 08:02:05 PM
Hoping desperately to look like a prat here come FT... but what in God's name is he playing at?!

Oh look, 1-0 down already.
Title: Re: Stockport Match Thread
Post by: JD on January 11, 2022, 08:07:35 PM
Just DON'T play 5 at the back!

Doh!
Title: Re: Stockport Match Thread
Post by: MarpleAlty on January 11, 2022, 08:10:20 PM
Anyone else starting to get a tiny bit concerned about Phil's decision making?

I've never known him to repeatedly make bewildering selection choices like he's been doing recently.
Title: Re: Stockport Match Thread
Post by: Alty Bri on January 11, 2022, 08:36:18 PM
Utterly farcical team selection. Utterly farcical.
Title: Re: Stockport Match Thread
Post by: MarpleAlty on January 11, 2022, 08:56:09 PM
With Kozzy out, the team picked itself.

Thompson
Morgan / Mullarkey / Hannigan / White
Osborne / Moult
Mooney / Hancock / Colclough
Hulme

It should have been the easiest selection of the season - but for reasons unknown, it clearly wasn't.
Title: Re: Stockport Match Thread
Post by: b23 on January 11, 2022, 08:57:40 PM
Awful...5 at the back has never worked for us...why not just give it a go..I know they're better than us but....
Title: Re: Stockport Match Thread
Post by: Alty Bri on January 11, 2022, 09:12:27 PM
Just surrendered. Absolutely crap.
Title: Re: Stockport Match Thread
Post by: b23 on January 11, 2022, 09:14:41 PM
If I was Pringle or Furman I'd want out now....insulting to them lets be honest
Title: Re: Stockport Match Thread
Post by: jhcorbett on January 11, 2022, 09:19:52 PM
Would letting those 2 go be a big deal?
Title: Re: Stockport Match Thread
Post by: that man showler on January 11, 2022, 09:24:41 PM
Absolute Garbage we are heading back to the NLN at this rate  :-[
Title: Re: Stockport Match Thread
Post by: Saughall Robin on January 11, 2022, 09:26:10 PM
Not usual for me, but absolutely lost for words with regards to the selection tonight.
Title: Re: Stockport Match Thread
Post by: MarpleAlty on January 11, 2022, 09:28:21 PM
I actually thought we'd turned the corner this season until roughly the 85th minute on Saturday and an absolutely needless decision that undoubtedly cost us 2 points.

And then we've followed it up with that.

Yep I'm concerned now. What's the old saying - football is a simple game overcomplicated by idiots?

Pick your best XI for Christ's sake.
Title: Re: Stockport Match Thread
Post by: finnquark1 on January 11, 2022, 09:39:28 PM
Utterly embarrassing for everyone concerned.
Title: Re: Stockport Match Thread
Post by: Jacob Screamscrackers on January 12, 2022, 12:02:33 AM
Having witnessed the horror show at Edgeley Park, I expected us to lose 3-1 tonight, and anyone who thought weíd compete with a quality Stockport side brimful of confidence, needs a dose of realism.
That said, Iím baffled by the decision to play with 5 at the back; Iím guessing Hulme was rested and that, in part, ingjtmrf his fecision..
There were positives, I felt; both new signings look decent, particularly Morgan, and I thought White played well
Think Grimsby might be another difficult encounter.
Title: Re: Stockport Match Thread
Post by: Sarf London Alty on January 12, 2022, 12:08:31 AM
A really depressing watch, the killer was the second goal just before HT as that finished the game off as a contest. Credit to our lads at 0-4 for keeping going & having the right attitude up until the end at least. Mainly just glad we wonít have to play Stockport again this season as it seems Parky runs up the white flag whenever they hone into view. Stockport are clearly an excellent side but so they should be with the millions that has been lavished on them over the last couple of years. Kings Lynn next Tuesday looks increasingly important you have to say.
Title: Re: Stockport Match Thread
Post by: robininstockport on January 12, 2022, 08:07:04 AM
Having witnessed the horror show at Edgeley Park, I expected us to lose 3-1 tonight, and anyone who thought weíd compete with a quality Stockport side brimful of confidence, needs a dose of realism.
That said, Iím baffled by the decision to play with 5 at the back; Iím guessing Hulme was rested and that, in part, ingjtmrf his fecision..
There were positives, I felt; both new signings look decent, particularly Morgan, and I thought White played well
Think Grimsby might be another difficult encounter.

Whilst I agree with your general sentiment, we didn't play 5 at the back
Title: Re: Stockport Match Thread
Post by: Salfordalty on January 12, 2022, 08:45:55 AM
I don't think we had anyone at the back did we?
Title: Re: Stockport Match Thread
Post by: Saughall Robin on January 12, 2022, 09:21:12 AM
I'd like to see us pick our best eleven in future and play the way we, and the players, know rather than change to suit the opposition.
If we get beaten by the better team I can live with that.
Playing 4-2-3-1, we'll certainly have enough to finish 16th.
Title: Re: Stockport Match Thread
Post by: Alty Dave on January 12, 2022, 12:36:53 PM
I wasn't going to post. but maybe a little to clear my frustration.

Found last night frustrating, as others say Stockport were very good, we played marginally better than boxing day, but surely we could have done better with players in there best positions and best players on the pitch?

Shame Jordan didn't make an appearance but with lacking match fitness it was hardly surprising if not frustrating for a spectator. The use of Toby in a marking role, really didn't suit him and Kennedy whilst he has good potential as a CH is struggling to find his feet. Surely would have been better to have Toby at CH. Personally would have started Pringle or Furman in midfield.

Shame we didn't take the early opportunity to score, we should have done. Maybe a different game after that. We still make to many errors and gift goals as last night. Such a shame as it undoes the hard work.

I was pleased we kept battling to the end, was good to have a CF on the pitch whom wanted to prove a point I believe when he came on. Let's hope we play future matches with a CF on the pitch from the beginning.
Title: Re: Stockport Match Thread
Post by: robininstockport on January 12, 2022, 12:56:50 PM
Digne is a decent enough defender but poor with the ball. Same as Sutton
Title: Re: Stockport Match Thread
Post by: oneedham on January 12, 2022, 01:22:43 PM
Digne is a decent enough defender but poor with the ball. Same as Sutton

Just too erratic for me.
Hannigan is a ball winner so you need someone calmer, ball player alongside him.
Toby has all the potential but like most he seems low on confidence.
Title: Re: Stockport Match Thread
Post by: TheCultOfIanTunnacliffe on January 12, 2022, 07:37:17 PM


The view from the County perspective (some splendid photographs capturing that eerie mist):

https://hedgegrower.blogspot.com/2022/01/altrincham-1-stockport-county-4.html (https://hedgegrower.blogspot.com/2022/01/altrincham-1-stockport-county-4.html)
Title: Re: Stockport Match Thread
Post by: MarpleAlty on January 12, 2022, 07:39:34 PM
Digne is a decent enough defender but poor with the ball. Same as Sutton

I'd rather have Richie Sutton in the team any day of the week, quite frankly.
Title: Re: Stockport Match Thread
Post by: HashtagAlty on January 12, 2022, 08:48:25 PM
Still. Nothing FROM PARKINSON
Title: Re: Stockport Match Thread
Post by: Salfordalty on January 12, 2022, 09:08:04 PM
Still. Nothing FROM PARKINSON


I doubt we will. Yes it was sh*te but you aren't gonna get an apology after a dicking from county
Title: Re: Stockport Match Thread
Post by: RobskiRobin on January 12, 2022, 09:20:16 PM
Still. Nothing FROM PARKINSON

For me, the only we he needs to show heís sorry is by picking the right bloody team and formation on Saturday, at least weíll know heís learned his lesson
Title: Re: Stockport Match Thread
Post by: cheshire cat on January 12, 2022, 11:00:58 PM
Stockports version of the highlights are on youtube.

I'd love to know what Dens said to Jake after the fourth went in.
Title: Re: Stockport Match Thread
Post by: HashtagAlty on January 13, 2022, 08:56:43 AM
Still. Nothing FROM PARKINSON


I doubt we will. Yes it was sh*te but you aren't gonna get an apology after a dicking from county

Front up and apologise. Don't storm off down the tunnel after a meek apology to Toby.

Gone are the days where players cared enough to be angry at a defeat, just a small hand clap so they can be seen to applaud the fans.
Title: Re: Stockport Match Thread
Post by: Andrew Flynn on January 13, 2022, 09:17:10 AM
I distinctly remember Robbie Lawton coming right over to the perimeter fencing to front up after the 5-0 defeat at Eastbourne. Those days, and those types, are gone. I'm not saying the two results are comparable but we've still not had a word from Moult throughout this run. Programme column doesn't count, it's probably ghost written.

I said a few weeks back I can take or leave a Parky interview at this point. I would however really appreciate it if we could hear from some of our senior players. Let me put it plainly, this squad does not have anywhere near the connection with the fans that previous ones did. We need to do more to rebuild this. Results will obviously help, but I'd like to know more about how this has been for them. Maybe I'm on my own in that.
Title: Re: Stockport Match Thread
Post by: HashtagAlty on January 13, 2022, 09:21:09 AM
I distinctly remember Robbie Lawton coming right over to the perimeter fencing to front up after the 5-0 defeat at Eastbourne. Those days, and those types, are gone. I'm not saying the two results are comparable but we've still not a word from Moult throughout this run. Programme column doesn't count, it's probably ghost written.

I said a few weeks back I can take or leave a Parky interview at this point. I would however really appreciate it if we could hear from some of our senior players. Let me put it plainly, this squad does not have anywhere near the connection with the fans that previous ones did. We need to do more to rebuild this. Results will obviously help, but I'd like to know more about how this has been for them. Maybe I'm on my own in that.

And Densmore against Trafford.
Title: Re: Stockport Match Thread
Post by: Alty Dave on January 13, 2022, 09:24:28 AM
I distinctly remember Robbie Lawton coming right over to the perimeter fencing to front up after the 5-0 defeat at Eastbourne. Those days, and those types, are gone. I'm not saying the two results are comparable but we've still not had a word from Moult throughout this run. Programme column doesn't count, it's probably ghost written.

I said a few weeks back I can take or leave a Parky interview at this point. I would however really appreciate it if we could hear from some of our senior players. Let me put it plainly, this squad does not have anywhere near the connection with the fans that previous ones did. We need to do more to rebuild this. Results will obviously help, but I'd like to know more about how this has been for them. Maybe I'm on my own in that.
Good point Andrew, we would get a more balanced view of whats happening.

On the program, the columns are written at least a week before the game so of little relevance anymore. The silence is deafening and after a run of poor results we need to hear from the club, it definitely helps with our healing process and guides us to the next encounter  :D, well for me anyway.
Title: Re: Stockport Match Thread
Post by: HashtagAlty on January 13, 2022, 09:35:40 AM
This wasn't just a defeat like Boston (A), this is 2 hammerings in a local Derby.

The silence tells me everything I need to know.
Title: Re: Stockport Match Thread
Post by: RobskiRobin on January 13, 2022, 09:51:16 AM
I distinctly remember Robbie Lawton coming right over to the perimeter fencing to front up after the 5-0 defeat at Eastbourne. Those days, and those types, are gone. I'm not saying the two results are comparable but we've still not had a word from Moult throughout this run. Programme column doesn't count, it's probably ghost written.

I said a few weeks back I can take or leave a Parky interview at this point. I would however really appreciate it if we could hear from some of our senior players. Let me put it plainly, this squad does not have anywhere near the connection with the fans that previous ones did. We need to do more to rebuild this. Results will obviously help, but I'd like to know more about how this has been for them. Maybe I'm on my own in that.

This 👌
Title: Re: Stockport Match Thread
Post by: Leon on January 13, 2022, 10:18:35 AM
This wasn't just a defeat like Boston (A), this is 2 hammerings in a local Derby.

The silence tells me everything I need to know.

But whose silence is it exactly? If Phil did an interview immediately after the game (as he generally does) and it just hasn't appeared yet, I don't see how you could lay that at his door.
Title: Re: Stockport Match Thread
Post by: Sarf London Alty on January 13, 2022, 10:37:24 AM
I distinctly remember Robbie Lawton coming right over to the perimeter fencing to front up after the 5-0 defeat at Eastbourne. Those days, and those types, are gone. I'm not saying the two results are comparable but we've still not had a word from Moult throughout this run. Programme column doesn't count, it's probably ghost written.

I said a few weeks back I can take or leave a Parky interview at this point. I would however really appreciate it if we could hear from some of our senior players. Let me put it plainly, this squad does not have anywhere near the connection with the fans that previous ones did. We need to do more to rebuild this. Results will obviously help, but I'd like to know more about how this has been for them. Maybe I'm on my own in that.

Absolutely this. Iím not sure if itís maybe Covid related but have been wondering for a while if Flynny (B) will get to interview any of the playing staff after our matches.
Title: Re: Stockport Match Thread
Post by: Andrew Flynn on January 13, 2022, 11:51:32 AM
It really shouldn't be underestimated how far it goes. The reason we were so together in the Evo-Stik season was because we got to know those lads through the regular post match interviews and how approachable they were after game. That then carried into the NLN. Now I know we aren't in Kansas anymore and I appreciate COVID has had an impact on our ability to 'mingle' but there's no excuse as far as I can see for not putting the players on after a game.

Either it's an oversight or we're actively taking them out of the firing line.

I fully believe that the vast majority of players care deeply and are probably hurt / embarrassed about this run, what I'm saying is we wouldn't really know at the moment beyond PP mentioning "they're really hurting in the dressing room", to roughly quote. I'm sure they are, let's give them a platform to tell us what's going on.

Anyone who knows me will know I have a full appreciation for how much time and effort goes into recording, editing and uploading the interviews (all of which is still done to a superb standard, for free) but it's become the Parky Show this season and it's boring.
Title: Re: Stockport Match Thread
Post by: HashtagAlty on January 13, 2022, 12:05:11 PM
Get Parkinson on KGR podcast.
This wasn't just a defeat like Boston (A), this is 2 hammerings in a local Derby.

The silence tells me everything I need to know.

But whose silence is it exactly? If Phil did an interview immediately after the game (as he generally does) and it just hasn't appeared yet, I don't see how you could lay that at his door.

Personally I don't see the club are seperate entities, if Phil's done an interview and fronted up, he really should be doing it in a format that's easily to share, such as written website content ( a 5 minute upload via our many media team) or if there's an insistence on it being recorded, use sound cloud and upload raw.

Only if it was video, and tbh I think we'd prioritise editing that over highlights, would a delay be merited.

We were quick enough to get a sycophantic wank fest about our rivals on the website.
Title: Re: Stockport Match Thread
Post by: Alty Dave on January 13, 2022, 02:25:09 PM
Phils interview in link.

https://www.altrinchamfc.com/news/alty-tv-highlights-phil-parkinson-interview-altrincham-1-stockport-county-4

Bit samey, although clears Jordan up as why not come on. Doesn't talk of strategy which is disappointing to understand why we started Toby where he was.

Love Brian as interviewer but we need tougher questions.
Title: Re: Stockport Match Thread
Post by: Alty Bri on January 13, 2022, 02:33:50 PM
I love Brian as an interviewer too, but the first 4 minutes of the Boxing Day game interview was a bit like a mutual Stockport FC appreciation society - I switched off.

I'd probably prefer the questions to be a little more forensic, though I'm not sure Brian would necessarily see this as being his role.
Title: Re: Stockport Match Thread
Post by: HashtagAlty on January 13, 2022, 02:47:51 PM
9 minutes I won't get back. Not even a hint of an apology.

Bore off Parkinson talking about resources. You're probably the most backed manager since our title chasing sqaud in the 90s.
Title: Re: Stockport Match Thread
Post by: AFC56 on January 13, 2022, 03:12:04 PM
9 minutes I won't get back. Not even a hint of an apology.

Bore off Parkinson talking about resources. You were fine last season against Stockport. We should have drawn with Grimsby.


This is harsh. Whilst I agree that it isnít a great idea for Parky to use the full time part time excuse too much as it can become an ingrained defeatist approach, we have to be realistic and realise that some of the teams we are up against wouldnít look out of place in League 1. There are some powerhouse teams in this league and overall Parky has done a fantastic job. Do you think there is a manager out there that with the resources we have that could do a better job?
I personally wouldnít have selected the same team against Stockport but I also don't feel as if he should be apologising in any way for his team selection or losing a couple of games of football against Stockport.
Title: Re: Stockport Match Thread
Post by: Andrew Flynn on January 13, 2022, 03:34:25 PM
Sorry to say I found it to be a really tough listen. A worrying listen. Hopefully it's just because it was in the aftermath of defeat because if that's representative of the general vibe around the place then we are in serious trouble.

It is thoroughly depressing to have the leader of the club come across so resigned to and acceptant of defeat against a team in our league. Worlds most resources or not, squad of Avengers or not, we are in this league on merit and I expect us to go into every game with the positive belief that we can achieve a result. Toby Mullarkey in midfield, man. Come on now. Side note - I really thought we'd have been given some insight into that, bit of a let down.

We have always known what we are relative to some of the powers in this league but the problem is we appear to have lost the belief that we can go toe to toe with them. As we did with Notts County. As we did with Grimsby. At Chesterfield. The next thing you know that self doubt creeps into winnable game, and here we are.

Grimsby on Saturday, another big club with a big budget and great squad, albeit underperforming. How are we as fans supposed to turn up to these games expecting a spirited performance from our team when our manager plays down our chances against these sides?

As one of the lads has put in the group chat:

Quote
Football is so much about mindset and this leadership style of being a super realist doesnít cut the mustard. We all know what heís saying is true - as do the players. But the whole club needs to believe we can perform at a high level consistently, even if doing so is overachieving. This whole ďpoor usĒ mantra makes the wins feel like flukes and the defeats feel depressing.

I am absolutely sure that we had a better attitude when the season began, but it has gone missing and it needs to be reignited by Phil and Neil. If we don't get this back then make no mistake we won't be long for the National League. Can't mope about feeling sorry for yourself at this level. We have seen this play out before.

Go back to what got us here in the first place and get at them on Saturday, lads.
Title: Re: Stockport Match Thread
Post by: Alty Dave on January 13, 2022, 03:43:04 PM
Sorry to say I found it to be a really tough listen. A worrying listen. Hopefully it's just because it was in the aftermath of defeat because if that's representative of the general vibe around the place then we are in serious trouble.

It is thoroughly depressing to have the leader of the club come across so resigned to and acceptant of defeat against a team in our league. Worlds most resources or not, squad of Avengers or not, we are in this league on merit and I expect us to go into every game with the positive belief that we can achieve a result. Toby Mullarkey in midfield, man. Come on now. Side note - I really thought we'd have been given some insight into that, bit of a let down.

We have always known what we are relative to some of the powers in this league but the problem is we appear to have lost the belief that we can go toe to toe with them. As we did with Notts County. As we did with Grimsby. At Chesterfield. The next thing you know that self doubt creeps into winnable game, and here we are.

Grimsby on Saturday, another big club with a big budget and great squad, albeit underperforming. How are we as fans supposed to turn up to these games expecting a spirited performance from our team when our manager plays down our chances against these sides?

As one of the lads has put in the group chat:

Quote
Football is so much about mindset and this leadership style of being a super realist doesnít cut the mustard. We all know what heís saying is true - as do the players. But the whole club needs to believe we can perform at a high level consistently, even if doing so is overachieving. This whole ďpoor usĒ mantra makes the wins feel like flukes and the defeats feel depressing.

I am absolutely sure that we had a better attitude when the season began, but it has gone missing and it needs to be reignited by Phil and Neil. If we don't get this back then make no mistake we won't be long for the National League. Can't mope about feeling sorry for yourself at this level. We have seen this play out before.

Go back to what got us here in the first place and get at them on Saturday, lads.
Andrew, your so right with this post in my opinion. Let's hope we start to play more positive again as we know we can.
Title: Re: Stockport Match Thread
Post by: HashtagAlty on January 13, 2022, 03:56:10 PM
9 minutes I won't get back. Not even a hint of an apology.

Bore off Parkinson talking about resources. You were fine last season against Stockport. We should have drawn with Grimsby.


This is harsh. Whilst I agree that it isnít a great idea for Parky to use the full time part time excuse too much as it can become an ingrained defeatist approach, we have to be realistic and realise that some of the teams we are up against wouldnít look out of place in League 1. There are some powerhouse teams in this league and overall Parky has done a fantastic job. Do you think there is a manager out there that with the resources we have that could do a better job?
I personally wouldnít have selected the same team against Stockport but I also don't feel as if he should be apologising in any way for his team selection or losing a couple of games of football against Stockport.

We've not lost a game, we've been battered. Twice.

Once I'll take on the chin, but fans of 20 years walking out with 30 minute to go. We deserve someone with some fire.

Parkinson football got us here. Being cowardly got us relegated.

Plenty of managers would love this role, as we saw under Tolson, Harvey Young. Parkinson FC attitude caused this 1.win in 18

I stand by my comments that Parkinsons style of football is what gives us the best shot of the FL dream. Right now we aren't playing it, and we made some poor calls on Dinanga and Piggott
Title: Re: Stockport Match Thread
Post by: cheshire cat on January 13, 2022, 05:09:02 PM
I didn't expect anything from the Christmas period but the next three games are all winnable.
Seven points would be great but anything less than four would be unacceptable to me.
Title: Re: Stockport Match Thread
Post by: distancetraveller on January 13, 2022, 05:25:06 PM
Just listened to the managers interview .

I thought Brian should have asked the pertinent questions ie What was your thought process to play Mullarkey in midfield when you have the likes of Furman in the squad.

PP stated that the lad who scored the second goal had a bit of luck. Iím sorry but everyone stood off him and when he hit the shot Tommo was routed to the spot. 2-0 down Sod all to do with luck.

Fair enough if Jordon was injured in the warm up then I understand the reason he didnít come on.

Letís hope things improve sharpish or a trip up that Creek without a paddle will be on the cards.

Play the best lads in the correct position in a way that we all know and love the way they can.
Title: Re: Stockport Match Thread
Post by: TheCultOfIanTunnacliffe on January 13, 2022, 05:31:51 PM
I distinctly remember Robbie Lawton coming right over to the perimeter fencing to front up after the 5-0 defeat at Eastbourne. Those days, and those types, are gone. I'm not saying the two results are comparable but we've still not had a word from Moult throughout this run. Programme column doesn't count, it's probably ghost written.

I said a few weeks back I can take or leave a Parky interview at this point. I would however really appreciate it if we could hear from some of our senior players. Let me put it plainly, this squad does not have anywhere near the connection with the fans that previous ones did. We need to do more to rebuild this. Results will obviously help, but I'd like to know more about how this has been for them. Maybe I'm on my own in that.
Good point Andrew, we would get a more balanced view of whats happening.



On the program, the columns are written at least a week before the game so of little relevance anymore.



I remain bewildered as to why the deadlines for the Robins Review are so far in advance of its publication, especially in this day and age.

Consequently, a lot of its content is largely out-of-date and somewhat redundant in relation to the actual fixure being played.

I would also say that the programme constitutes a disappointing case of being 'more style than substance' and nowadays I probably purchase it more out of sheer habit.
It certainly looks like a rather feeble effort when compared to the quality issues produced by the likes of Wealdstone and Stockport County respectively this season.

Plus the editor remains a shadowy figure!
 
Title: Re: Stockport Match Thread
Post by: TheCultOfIanTunnacliffe on January 13, 2022, 05:36:06 PM

Just listened to the managers interview .


I thought Brian should have asked the pertinent questions ie What was your thought process to play Mullarkey in midfield when you have the likes of Furman in the squad.




The elephant in the room.

To quote a tongue-in-cheek message that I received from an Alty diehard yesterday:

"We're paying a manager a full-time wage to spend all week thinking up Toby Mullarkey in midfield?::)

At least Heathcote cut the grass."
 

Title: Re: Stockport Match Thread
Post by: Salfordalty on January 13, 2022, 06:38:28 PM
Not seen an interview like that from parky before. Basically accepting defeat and saying we cannot complete. Its 11 v 11 on that pitch and we have always gone into every game with belief we can get something. Based on that we are going into games against the bigger teams just ready to roll over and move onto the next game.

I hope I'm wrong in that but are we at the point now where this team doesn't belive it can hold its own in this league?
Title: Re: Stockport Match Thread
Post by: Alty Bri on January 13, 2022, 07:18:35 PM
Stockport are a very very good team. However, it is worth noting that apart from us and against a very understrength Grimsby in the Trophy, their other recent results have been

Torquay 2 Stockport 1
and
Stockport 1 Solihull 0

Yes, they are good, but world beaters they are not. We were just pants twice.
Title: Re: Stockport Match Thread
Post by: Nom de plume on January 13, 2022, 11:01:29 PM

Fair enough if Jordon was injured in the warm up then I understand the reason he didnít come on.

Iím a little puzzled by this assertion as I was in the ground at approx 18.53. At that point only TT and Steven Drench were out on the pitch. At 18.55 the team was announced on twitter, with JH on the bench.
The rest of the team came out for the warm up about 19.00 and JH was taking an active role in it.

Unless there was a pre warm-up warm-up, I fail to see how an apparent injury after 19.00 caused him to be a substitute before 18.55.
Title: Re: Stockport Match Thread
Post by: One Foot in the Grave on January 14, 2022, 09:06:46 AM

Fair enough if Jordon was injured in the warm up then I understand the reason he didnít come on.

Iím a little puzzled by this assertion as I was in the ground at approx 18.53. At that point only TT and Steven Drench were out on the pitch. At 18.55 the team was announced on twitter, with JH on the bench.
The rest of the team came out for the warm up about 19.00 and JH was taking an active role in it.

Unless there was a pre warm-up warm-up, I fail to see how an apparent injury after 19.00 caused him to be a substitute before 18.55.

It's getting to resemble Boris's garden party. There's a lot of downright dishonesty floating around right now, and it's not what we're used to - and it's certainly not what we deserve.
Title: Re: Stockport Match Thread
Post by: cheshire cat on January 14, 2022, 09:13:56 AM
I didn't see any cheese and wine.

I don't know what was going on but as things stand I hope that Jordan was being kept out of sight of any Grimsby scouts.
Title: Re: Stockport Match Thread
Post by: robininstockport on January 14, 2022, 09:20:33 AM
The Hulme debate is puzzling, but no near as puzzling as to why Mullarkey started in midfield.
Title: Re: Stockport Match Thread
Post by: Nom de plume on January 14, 2022, 10:44:55 AM

I don't know what was going on but as things stand I hope that Jordan was being kept out of sight of any Grimsby scouts.

Will they be Sea Scouts?
Title: Re: Stockport Match Thread
Post by: Alfa Romeo on January 14, 2022, 11:50:06 AM
I think, listening to the interview carefully, that what PP said was that Jordan was on the bench because he had played the full 90 minutes at Barnet (he looked absolutely knackered at the end) and didn't come on because he tweaked his groin in the warm up. Just my reading of it. If I can come up with an explanation for Toby being in midfield I'll post it, don't hold your breath though
Title: Re: Stockport Match Thread
Post by: Nom de plume on January 14, 2022, 03:24:40 PM
I think, listening to the interview carefully, that what PP said was that Jordan was on the bench because he had played the full 90 minutes at Barnet (he looked absolutely knackered at the end) and didn't come on because he tweaked his groin in the warm up. Just my reading of it.
Now that makes sense. Thanks for that.
Title: Re: Stockport Match Thread
Post by: Saughall Robin on January 14, 2022, 03:33:52 PM
I think when Sutton signed there was a bit on here about Mullarkey being tried as a defensive midfielder to replace Ali Smith but it didn't have much traction even then. He's certainly got the engine for the role but that's all as we saw against County.
Title: Re: Stockport Match Thread
Post by: HashtagAlty on January 17, 2022, 09:43:22 AM
Toby in CM is like ordering Ali Smith from wish.

However, he looked solid again at CB at Grimsby. He should never be played in CM again