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I ask because, as I understand, the WHO has updated its PCR guidance, and now recommends a second test to confirm a PCR positive test result. I trust that the authorities and the National League will make any necessary changes to their protocols and practices to reflect this guidance.

(And yes, "London" Alty, this is relevant to Altrincham fc first team. Isn't it. I'll leave any side tracking to others - for now..)

PS Best wishes to the player concerned, I hope he is "recovering" well.

Altrincham FC First Team / Re: Out of the trophy?
« on: January 20, 2021, 05:53:16 AM »
If we are all being completely honest, playing football at all with the virus raging out of control is a high risk activity. It is a contact sport. On this basis, it's a lottery which clubs are and aren't impacted and it seems to me most clubs will be impacted at some point as long as the games keep on being played. 

Its just plain bad luck it hit us before the Trophy game, but I don't believe it would have been a priority for us - consolidating and attaining a respectable, stable footing in the National League is.  Just imagine how gutting it would have been had we got to Wembley for the first time since 1986, and none of us could go because it was being played behind closed doors.

Ah that virus that we're not supposed to discuss on the Altrincham fc first team forum

Guarantee it'll be back in control come the summer, same as last year (if it was ever out of control...)

Altrincham FC First Team / Re: Out of the trophy?
« on: January 20, 2021, 05:48:50 AM »
This stinks in my opinion
Using your detailed knowledge of the particular circumstances of each club, please explain why.

It's a sh*tshow. Is that detailed enough?

Sorry but I'm getting really fed up of our season being wrecked. And I can imagine how South Shields feel...

Altrincham FC First Team / Re: Out of the trophy?
« on: January 20, 2021, 05:46:06 AM »
Don't know the circumstances of their covid cases but H&W are now playing a league match tomorrow so that shows they would have been able to fulfil the Trophy tie. Presumably the rest of their squad is not required to self-isolate under the covid protocols whereas our entire squad is.

Any news of how many of our squad/staff were feeling ill from a virus? Anyone seriously fear for their wellbeing?

Just wondering like...

Altrincham FC First Team / Re: Out of the trophy?
« on: January 20, 2021, 05:43:50 AM »
Why are we forfeiting the tie when Havant have four players out with covid?

Same reason it was considered too dangerous for us to watch the Barnton match (but not too dangerous for Chester/Southport/FC Utd/ Dagenham+Redbridge supporters to watch their team)?

Altrincham FC First Team / Re: Barnet Stream
« on: January 20, 2021, 05:39:12 AM »
Do they actually own that Hive they're playing at? If it is ground share or similar, could that have something to do with it?

(Nb, striking how Barnet's crowds have slipped since the late 80's/90's).

Altrincham FC First Team / Re: Loans from now om
« on: January 20, 2021, 05:34:47 AM »
Didn't we get stung over loans in the past (admittedly with the value of the stadium as collateral)?

This is deeply worrying, but hardly surprising.

Non Altrincham FC Talk / Re: COVID-19 and associated discussion
« on: January 03, 2021, 11:25:53 PM »
Every cloud............... Edgeley Park without any supporters might not be so bad. Is Hugh OK?
Yes, I've not snuffed it from cv quite yet, just tired from work and things.  Vit D and other supplements appear to be doing the job so far but it's early days.

I'd rather be at Edgely Park though! Be nice to see Alty take on County a couple of times before they get back into the fl...

Non Altrincham FC Talk / Re: COVID-19 and associated discussion
« on: January 03, 2021, 11:22:36 PM »
South Dakota's death rate is currently 50% higher than ours and that's in a very sparsely populated state. Carry on as normal won't win an election even if it is four years away

Meanwhile the number of cases needing hosital treatment for Covid is due to rocket. Whether they get it or not remains to be seen. That doesn't mean I think it is acceptable for other people with serious conditions to lose out.

The government is reacting to the figures. The figures are provided by the public.

The coverage provided by Alty TV is good enough for me for the time being.

I thought the figures were provided by counting the number of deaths within 28 days of a positive (mostly pcr) test result, that is, differently to respiratory deaths in all previous years. This means that "cv" deaths are overstated - some will be deaths where it wasn't the main cause, others will have had nothing  to do with cv at all. The only question is how many, whether you believe the information I heard that the true number is less than half the daily official figures, or think it is nearer to the figures given (and I when recently reading a pre-March piece on Spanish flu, what struck me was how widely estimates of deaths varied, from (as I remember) 25m up to 100m). At any rate, if the official figures are anywhere near correct, it must be a very very clever virus as it has apparently managed to reduce deaths due to a number of other common illnesses this year.

So far as I can tell, the problem in  hospitals is largely due to testing healthy staff for cv, something which I understand is never normally done with these respiratory diseases, and which as far as I'm concerned should stop at once  - far more dangerous to deprive the nhs of workers who are not actually showing symptoms of cv. asymptomatic transmission seems to be vanishingly rare, and something that was primarily promoted by China (and by extension the CCP).

It should also be noted that Finland, previously noted for its low IFR, has been adding vitamin D to basic foods - absolutely something that should be done here (the recent rigged test - which used far too low a dose -notwithstanding, and as long as people can opt out).

I now await the total excess deaths for the year - some of which will have of course been caused by lockdowns and people not accessing  vital treatment because of them or simply through fear of going to hospitals.

ps Alty tv has been rather good lately hasn't it - and Stockport tv yesterday!

Non Altrincham FC Talk / Re: COVID-19 and associated discussion
« on: January 03, 2021, 11:02:52 PM »
Belgium and South Dakota

Latest worldometer numbers:

South Dakota - one more death

Belgium - 347 more deaths.

Still not convinced, I'm afraid. Will try and keep an eye on it.

Hugh, you've either wildly misread or misrepresented the figures. The number you quoted for Belgium there is for two days. They had 199 deaths yesterday and 148 today which presumably is where you got your 347 from. The figure for South Dakota isn't "one" and it doesn't say that on Worldometer anywhere. Indeed, the latest daily death tolls it gives are both 13 for November 7th and 8th. They haven't even released today's numbers so you can't compare them. Belgium does indeed have a slightly higher death rate in recent days, although it's not nearly the difference you indicate above.

You talked about cherry picking numbers earlier but you put a lot of stock in figures from very short time frame and compare random countries to one another. Statisticians don't work this way. They look at as much data as possible to get an idea of things. I'm not actually arguing with any of your other points RE economy, personal freedoms, projections. I'm just pointing out that your numbers are dead wrong and the areas you're promoting as doing well are objectively not.

That's why I've been doing this weekly.

South Dakota as of now is 540 deaths total. Let's check again next week.

Obviously the global rate is much lower as most of the countries I've been tracking have a severe demographic crisis of aging populations.

South Dakota now up to 1446 deaths as of 29/12/2020.
That puts their death rate just below that of Belgium (which I'm afraid can't just be dismissed as some seem to want to, and previously locked down hard). II don't know for certain, but I would suggest that this may be to do with this virus being more dangerous in cold weather, and South Dakota, in America's "ice box, having bitterly cold winters (it appears to have peaked in early December), and possibly with it being less affected in the Spring. Their deaths, btw, have reduced in each of the last 3 weeks, from 162 down to 65 (though this last could have been affected by reduced holiday reporting), and, so far as I know, with still no lockdown or severe restrictions.

Altrincham FC First Team / Re: Chester - Match Thread
« on: December 20, 2020, 05:26:20 AM »
Think Parky would have used game to look at some fringe players but due to all the injuries maybe forced to play virtually full strength team... however, wouldn't be surprised to see Gould get a chance in goal...

Prediction: Alty 2-1 win...

Hopefully later today will get good news about tier2... however in last week optimism for tier2 seems to be replaced with pessimism of staying in tier3... Trafford has one of lowest counts so could be an exception, but assume will treat whole of Greater Manc the same... fingers crossed for tier2... missing watching live footy & matchday experience... Let fans in!

"Covid" deaths (probably substantially overstated, same as earlier in the year) barely changed since 4th November. Trafford "cases" (flawed pcr tests)well below Barking when we played there with Redbridge supporters allowed to attend. So obviously we remain in tier of hell 3. Anyone else getting fed up of this?

Altrincham FC First Team / Re: The Draw
« on: December 20, 2020, 05:16:28 AM »
Do we know if the draw on Monday is on radio or tv?

Hey, Cornwall's not in tier 2 or 3 is it? Perhaps there will be supporters at the game if so? (And perhaps a decent turnout, as this would be quite a big game for Truro).

Non Altrincham FC Talk / Re: COVID-19 and associated discussion
« on: December 20, 2020, 05:10:04 AM »
And now they are shutting bars early, reducing the number of people who can sit together in restaurants and asking people to wear facemasks on public transport.

But they're doing so well, lockdown has no impact etc etc

Yes, they are doing well. Deaths among under 80's in Sweden from July 2019 to July 2020 average or below 5 year average. Deaths for over 80's only up about one per cent, and obviously they've avoided some of the problems of full lockdowns as well. I presume you're still interested in statistics?

If we're going to be democratic about this, the king of Sweden (who could formerly walk casually amongst the general population as I remember) is just one individual, same as the rest of us. If we're going to pay attention to him, I dare say I could quote (for example) Prince Charles on all sorts of things.

Also Belarus has less excess deaths than the UK. See

All rational Altrincham supporters should support a push for a full return of spectators asap, and the current restrictions represent crimes against humanity so far as I am concerned, and we will be pushing for them to be treated as such.

Sorry, but I've had enough of "this nonsense", and I suspect many more will have too in the coming months as the madness becomes ever more apparent. No more mister nice guy from me, I'm afraid.

Altrincham FC First Team / Amazing what Parky's done
« on: December 14, 2020, 04:39:01 AM »
Especially given the stream of injuries. We actually have more points than at this stage last season, and the same as the season before.

And I still say that Peers can make an impact. $ goals already isn't it? And from limited game time. I seem to remember a darting run into the box against Dagenham and Redbridge and Leytonstone and...   He seems to make things happen, and find the space to get a shot away. That depressing home defeat to Bromley (or whoever it was) where we hardly had a shot - I reckon if he'd been playing, he might just have been the man to make something happen against a tightly packed defense. Yes, we'd love to still have Jordan Hulme (and let's be honest, John Johnston) but I think Peers is better than some make out - and part of a squad that has had a decent start at GMVC level.

Altrincham FC First Team / Re: (Sir) Graham Brady
« on: December 14, 2020, 04:26:38 AM »
As explained yesterday on Politics Today nobody wants to abstain but it is the least unacceptable of a selection of undesirable options.
The target of dealing with COVID is shared so to vote against might imperil progress. However the mechanisms being employed are not those preferred or suggested by the Opposition.
Therefore abstention is the best of a bad lot

You would say that though, wouldn't you? Difference of management, not difference of approach. What opposition there is to this madness appears to have been led by Sir Graham Brady.

You can be sure there'll be an opposition come the May elections if this nonsense isn't sorted out.

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