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16  General Category / Altrincham FC First Team / Re: Statement from Barrow Chairman/Owner - Ring a bell ? on: May 17, 2018, 12:28:07 PM
It doesn't make him right.
17  General Category / Altrincham FC First Team / Re: Retained Players on: May 17, 2018, 12:03:03 PM
Agree with both previous posters. Iím concerned that some of the posts on this forum recently appear to be advocating the desirability of NOT actively seeking investment. If this view is shared at board level, we face a difficult future.
This thread has taken a very strange turn. I can't see where anybody is advocating that we should not be seeking investment. Stating the difficulties is simply pragmatism. See my earlier posts on other threads about the need for a high profile FA Cup run, and the publicity it would bring. That scenario is, to my mind, the best way to encourage investment. Roll out the bandwagon !

Some say pragmatic, some say excuses and negativity.

Just remember there's a solution in every problem.
18  General Category / Altrincham FC First Team / Re: Retained Players on: May 15, 2018, 08:57:26 PM
Over 75,000 people reached with a little level of creativity. Imagine what could be done to attract interest to our 51% with the same level of thought.

CC: PukkaPieman
19  General Category / Altrincham FC First Team / Re: Retained Players on: May 13, 2018, 09:44:39 PM
Will be announced at midday tomorrow. Looks like there's 15

I wouldn't be so sure; the number on the graphic just rounded up to 15.  Grin

You know we've retained off the field staff, and there may be a shiny or two to collect.
20  General Category / Altrincham FC First Team / Crewe FC on: May 12, 2018, 10:54:46 AM
Annouce they'll be playing Altrincham pre-season. No date yet.
21  General Category / Altrincham FC First Team / Re: Talking about investment... on: May 12, 2018, 10:52:20 AM
5 Hale businessmen (one now Jersey based) on the train back from a day of racing.
None of them knew of share issue, or where online to read about it.

All United fans who occasionally watch us.

We can't even tell the neighbours correctly.

Let's get a for sale sign up ffs.
22  General Category / Altrincham FC First Team / Re: Talking about investment... on: May 10, 2018, 08:51:25 PM
I do not accept or back the status quo thanks.
And im sick of being told to and that there is no alternative.
If rowley did the decent thing and stepped aside we would fill the gap same day
Nobody is saying there is no alternative,... but it hasnt happened yet !
Are you really that naive you believe that by some magic a better option would appear the same day, really ?
Or would you accept anyone, no matter how incompetent or useless to take over just because you dislike him?

If the board genuinely desire to reunify the club's fanbase then there's manifestly already "a better option" as chairman in the guise of one Bill Waterson Esq.
Or we could always invite Mark Harris to return......!

If we're looking at current board members, why not have Mike Adams.
I reckon he might accept we need to accept more money coming in

Thank god ur not running one of my companies Jack Cheesy

I know right, heaven forbid, you'd might even have to do things differently... scary!
23  General Category / Altrincham FC First Team / Re: Talking about investment... on: May 10, 2018, 08:25:55 PM
I do not accept or back the status quo thanks.
And im sick of being told to and that there is no alternative.
If rowley did the decent thing and stepped aside we would fill the gap same day

Nobody is saying there is no alternative,... but it hasnt happened yet !

Are you really that naive you believe that by some magic a better option would appear the same day, really ?

Or would you accept anyone, no matter how incompetent or useless to take over just because you dislike him?






If the board genuinely desire to reunify the club's fanbase then there's manifestly already "a better option" as chairman in the guise of one Bill Waterson Esq.

Or we could always invite Mark Harris to return......!



If we're looking at current board members, why not have Mike Adams.

I reckon he might accept we need to accept more money coming in
24  General Category / Altrincham FC First Team / Re: Talking about investment... on: May 10, 2018, 08:09:46 PM
I do not accept or back the status quo thanks.
And im sick of being told to and that there is no alternative.
If rowley did the decent thing and stepped aside we would fill the gap same day

Nobody is saying there is no alternative,... but it hasnt happened yet !
Are you really that naive you believe that by some magic a better option would appear the same day, really ?
Or would you accept anyone, no matter how incompetent or useless to take over just because you dislike him?

Looks like Arsenal will get a new boss now there's a vacancy.

So the new boss will be paying Arsenal for the privelege will he ? pretty rubbish comparison Jack Shocked

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/a/altrincham/8994796.stm

Took a while to replace Geoff didn't it x
25  General Category / Altrincham FC First Team / Re: Talking about investment... on: May 10, 2018, 05:58:20 PM
I do not accept or back the status quo thanks.
And im sick of being told to and that there is no alternative.
If rowley did the decent thing and stepped aside we would fill the gap same day

Nobody is saying there is no alternative,... but it hasnt happened yet !
Are you really that naive you believe that by some magic a better option would appear the same day, really ?
Or would you accept anyone, no matter how incompetent or useless to take over just because you dislike him?

Looks like Arsenal will get a new boss now there's a vacancy.
26  General Category / Altrincham FC First Team / Re: Talking about investment... on: May 09, 2018, 10:57:14 PM
Well, this is escalating quick

So did our demise under Young and Doughty etc..

27  General Category / Altrincham FC First Team / Re: Talking about investment... on: May 09, 2018, 10:45:33 PM

You imply the club has not been trying to find investment over the last 20 years, completely the opposite is true as I know from personal experience.

So, in this Ďpersonal experienceí of yours Foden, what did we have to offer these people over the past 20 years when we made all this effort to attract investment into the club? Half a page in the program? A horse in the race-night? Sponsorship of Gary Scottís socks? It seems very peculiar to me that we would have made so much effort to attract investment/investors over that period, but have suddenly became so shy now we actually have something tangible to offer people...
Itís not limited to Peteís earlier list either, almost every club above us in the football pecking order has managed to attract these people to buy into their clubs (hence why they have moved above us while we stood still), so the idea that they donít exist doesnít ring true.

I understand that dinosaurs like yourself have more than enough Alty memories of your own (from when we used to be good) in the football w@nk bank to keep you smiling until the grave - incidentally, from a period where when we were actually proactive about attracting investment into the club, and not more concerned with protecting one manís retirement hobby. But that is no excuse for you, or anyone else for that matter, sucking the ambition out of the club for the next generation of fans who follow.

Wow, where did that tirade come from ?

Having been a director of this club and having personally invested tens of thousands into it, most fans would understand how distasteful it is to be disrespected by a fag packet know it all like you Taylor.
Those of us having created and still run numerous businesses and employ hundreds of people do understand investment and how to get it.
The fundamental reason people havent found Alty attractive for investment is it doesnt make financial sense and nobody with deep enough pockets has had enough love for the club to empty them into it.
Another reason I would have personally if I invested is having to deal with complete tossers like you.


Quick question, where does fag packet know it all rank on the scale of clique to Cancerous Vermin?
28  General Category / Altrincham FC First Team / Re: Talking about investment... on: May 09, 2018, 09:41:06 PM
If you or someone you know wants to give some money to the club, thats great,.. all he/she needs to do is ring or email the club. Standing around making noises isnt the best means of communicating Wink Roll Eyes

Oh I don't know, standing around tweeting has brought one share holder in already....
29  General Category / Altrincham FC First Team / Re: Southport sack Kevin Davies on: May 08, 2018, 09:38:39 PM
On the other hand, I imagine Morley and Johnson will be very attractive for some of those big, under-achieving National League North clubs such as York, Stockport and Chester.

Agreed, bet Southport wish they hadn't gone straight for the easy option. Harrogate could opt for a change.
30  General Category / Altrincham FC First Team / Re: Talking about investment... on: May 08, 2018, 09:17:27 PM
That would mean someone giving up their shares to make it up to 51%.....Mr Looney took 10,000 shares?..who has 10,000 shares and would give them up?...what mechanism?
Anyway it's all gone very quiet on the investment front....we've been promoted, we're a great investment......it does feel like we've got one person took up a few shares and we're happy with that and hopefully the whole fragmented share and ownership will go away??
Amazing these shares that are a millstone round the poor poor shareholders neck....and yet when the supporters wanted more than one single share they were eyed with utmost suspicion by Mr Rowley and co....and the fans were prepared to invest continually (unlike Mr Rowley)

Is it a great investment? The definition of an investment is to trt make a profit. You don't invest in something to lose money, which you most likely would do putting money into a lower league football club.
It needs somebody who is happy to throw money away and not many wealthy people are fans of this, otherwise they wouldn't be wealthy in the first place.
The best case scenario, from a monetary point of view, is for a big Alty fan to come forward with a case load of cash and throw it at the club, not interested in a return apart from involvement in the club and decision making. This hasn't happened yet, so is unlikely to do so now.

Precisely. This is the reality and why "investors" have never come forward, because it isnt investment at all and why the board have taken the path they have these past years, in the absence of an alternative.


You're assuming that investments are only financial and monetary though, rather than maybe emotional.

Following a football team is an investment. There is time and money spent in cultivating the relationship and investing in your support. You're hoping investment pays off short term (a weekly win or in the conference even a hard fought point away somewhere tough), but also long term, across the season - be it confirming safety, promotion, playoffs etc.

I once read a quote or heard a story about Directors being at Tottenham or some other high calibre fixture (wembley) about being at the in the directors box there.

You also rule out the "my horse is bigger" strategy that some rich "investors fall in. Many rich people like to have other things their other rich neighbour don't. A share in a successful football club they can show off about, is a little better than a new sports car.

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