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1  General Category / Altrincham FC First Team / Re: Talking about investment... on: May 12, 2018, 12:47:38 PM
5 Hale businessmen (one now Jersey based) on the train back from a day of racing.
None of them knew of share issue, or where online to read about it.

All United fans who occasionally watch us.

We can't even tell the neighbours correctly.

Let's get a for sale sign up ffs.

This post pretty much wraps up the thread to be honest.

It also sums up the situation the club find themselves struggling with as a whole. Five businessmen live round the corner but support the largest club in England five miles down the road, rather than their local club. It's generally the way of the world nowadays, unfortunately.
2  General Category / Altrincham FC First Team / Re: Talking about investment... on: May 08, 2018, 06:14:27 PM
That would mean someone giving up their shares to make it up to 51%.....Mr Looney took 10,000 shares?..who has 10,000 shares and would give them up?...what mechanism?

Anyway it's all gone very quiet on the investment front....we've been promoted, we're a great investment......it does feel like we've got one person took up a few shares and we're happy with that and hopefully the whole fragmented share and ownership will go away??

Amazing these shares that are a millstone round the poor poor shareholders neck....and yet when the supporters wanted more than one single share they were eyed with utmost suspicion by Mr Rowley and co....and the fans were prepared to invest continually (unlike Mr Rowley)



Is it a great investment? The definition of an investment is to trt make a profit. You don't invest in something to lose money, which you most likely would do putting money into a lower league football club.

It needs somebody who is happy to throw money away and not many wealthy people are fans of this, otherwise they wouldn't be wealthy in the first place.

The best case scenario, from a monetary point of view, is for a big Alty fan to come forward with a case load of cash and throw it at the club, not interested in a return apart from involvement in the club and decision making. This hasn't happened yet, so is unlikely to do so now.
3  General Category / Altrincham FC First Team / Re: Next season's ticket prices.. on: May 08, 2018, 05:58:19 PM
I think we've got this almost right....maybe we could have squeezed an extra £2 out of the full price but I like the £1 for under 12s

Not sure how our concessions feel?...tenner a bit much for an OAP? or am I being patronising?

Altrincham Football Club is pleased to announce the following admission prices for next season: •Adults £13
•Concessions £10
•Juniors (12-16) £5
•Under 12s £1

Season tickets will be priced as follows:
•Adults £220
•Concessions £170
•Juniors (12-16) £50
•Under 12s £20

'Early Bird' pricing will be offered of Adults £210 and Concessions £160 for all season tickets purchased before 30th June.

Director Bill Waterson adds, "Thank you to all who contributed to this debate, and the board discussed it at some length on Thursday. We have set a price that is below the average pricing for the Conference North last season as we balance thanking you all for your excellent support last season with raising funds for the playing budget".

Season tickets cover ALL league games and pre-season friendlies played at the J. Davidson Stadium. They do NOT cover cup matches.

Why doesn't Bill Waterson become chairman?? then we can have an extra 29 x £13per game or £220 season tickets and a few more patrons and sales in the bar and end the arguments that kick off even on the memories of moss lane page FFS!!?Huh


At this current time, there isn't a vacant position of Chairman for him to just "become" the next one.

As he has witnessed first hand the campaign/abuse towards the current Chairman of the club, it's hardly a strong advertisement for the (voluntary?) position, if it were to become vacant.
4  General Category / Altrincham FC First Team / Re: Marine : Match Thread on: April 24, 2018, 06:45:49 PM
Is this looking more and more likely to be in danger of being called off/not able to finish?
5  General Category / Altrincham FC First Team / Re: Championi Championi on: April 21, 2018, 08:21:24 PM
They've been fantastic all season, after the first couple of games. The most impressive part, for me, is this last few weeks. We had our wobble with one point from three home games and let Warrington get within a point. Panic could have set in, doubts in the mind, but we've taken 20 points from the next nine game (with seven being away from home).

To seal the title with two wins away to two teams in the top seven is fantastic.

Sign of true champions of any league!
6  General Category / Altrincham FC First Team / Re: winning this league on: April 16, 2018, 10:28:16 PM

May I interpose a few rather boring facts?
Average home league gate over the last ten seasons is 1022, not including play-off matches.
Seasonal averages as follows:
2008-9 1081; 2009-10 1095; 2010-1 1038 (all in Conf Nat)
2011-2 827; 2012-3 837; 2013-4 910 (all in Conf North)
2014-5 1246; 2015-6 1270 (Conf Nat)
2016-7 1150 (Conf North)
2017-8 to date 767 (EvoStik Prem)
The figures for 2016-7 are somewhat skewed by the presence of Salford & FCUM among the opposition, so a considerable reduction in average was to be expected in any event. The more interesting comparison is between this season and the three in Conf North from 2011-14. I am perfectly well aware that there are lies, damned lies and statistics but would suggest that the gates this season, which are the highest on average in this league by some distance (Stourbridge, the next best, average just under 700) are not perhaps quite as poor as some may think.
By the by - since our winning leagues happens on average less than once every Preston Guild (which occurs every 20 years, for the uninitiated - we've won five league titles in 115 years) I shall be very happy to celebrate winning this league if & when it happens!

I think your last point undermines your argument that all is well.

This is a championship winning season, you are almost guaranteed a home win, we have slashed our admission prices by 40%, we can drink beer on the terrace, and yet we have the lowest average attendance in the last ten years. This is a Preston guild?

Do you really think we should be proud of the fact that we have the largest attendance in the evostick? Is that how far we've dropped? I can hear the laughter from Macclesfield.

So on the one hand you are bemoaning that people aren't coming to watch a winning side but then talk about us being at such a low level and how far we've dropped. I'm genuinely confused, it's probably just me though.

I can't see anyone saying all is well, or that they are proud of the crowds. The issue of so many hard-core supporters staying away has been referred to time and time again in this and other threads (and this cannot remain the elephant in the room as far as the board is concerned).

There's been plenty of context and restraint in the praise given. People are giving credit where it's deserved and actually trying to squeeze some sort of long overdue and well earned pleasure and positivity after two seasons of hell. Is that really such a bad thing?
Ok I’ll keep it simple for you.

The loss of our core support is worrying. I want bigger crowds that include all of our core support. The “f**k them” mentality of the board is divisive and bad for the club. The board should be actively trying to get all of our fans back to moss lane.
So how big is this core support loss, being due to the continued presence of Grahame Rowley, as opposed to the fact that we are playing in the Evostik league?

As far as any "proof" goes, the only thing anyone has to go on is the 29 that left a game early in protest.

Well that’s not actually proof, because several go to games still but many who didn’t walk out don’t gi

I know it's not proof but it is the only visual that can be given an actual, accurate, figure.
7  General Category / Altrincham FC First Team / Re: Ladies team and Walking football on: April 16, 2018, 09:40:42 PM
This game is traditionally the curtain raiser for the beer festival?

I highly doubt it is the reason but given the weather we have had, and the impact this has had on the pitch, having a game planned the night before what could have been a title deciding game would not be wise.

Not sure when the ladies game is, this could be the Friday, I can't see a schedule anywhere, so this may still happen.
8  General Category / Altrincham FC First Team / Re: winning this league on: April 16, 2018, 09:33:40 PM

May I interpose a few rather boring facts?
Average home league gate over the last ten seasons is 1022, not including play-off matches.
Seasonal averages as follows:
2008-9 1081; 2009-10 1095; 2010-1 1038 (all in Conf Nat)
2011-2 827; 2012-3 837; 2013-4 910 (all in Conf North)
2014-5 1246; 2015-6 1270 (Conf Nat)
2016-7 1150 (Conf North)
2017-8 to date 767 (EvoStik Prem)
The figures for 2016-7 are somewhat skewed by the presence of Salford & FCUM among the opposition, so a considerable reduction in average was to be expected in any event. The more interesting comparison is between this season and the three in Conf North from 2011-14. I am perfectly well aware that there are lies, damned lies and statistics but would suggest that the gates this season, which are the highest on average in this league by some distance (Stourbridge, the next best, average just under 700) are not perhaps quite as poor as some may think.
By the by - since our winning leagues happens on average less than once every Preston Guild (which occurs every 20 years, for the uninitiated - we've won five league titles in 115 years) I shall be very happy to celebrate winning this league if & when it happens!

I think your last point undermines your argument that all is well.

This is a championship winning season, you are almost guaranteed a home win, we have slashed our admission prices by 40%, we can drink beer on the terrace, and yet we have the lowest average attendance in the last ten years. This is a Preston guild?

Do you really think we should be proud of the fact that we have the largest attendance in the evostick? Is that how far we've dropped? I can hear the laughter from Macclesfield.

So on the one hand you are bemoaning that people aren't coming to watch a winning side but then talk about us being at such a low level and how far we've dropped. I'm genuinely confused, it's probably just me though.

I can't see anyone saying all is well, or that they are proud of the crowds. The issue of so many hard-core supporters staying away has been referred to time and time again in this and other threads (and this cannot remain the elephant in the room as far as the board is concerned).

There's been plenty of context and restraint in the praise given. People are giving credit where it's deserved and actually trying to squeeze some sort of long overdue and well earned pleasure and positivity after two seasons of hell. Is that really such a bad thing?
Ok I’ll keep it simple for you.

The loss of our core support is worrying. I want bigger crowds that include all of our core support. The “f**k them” mentality of the board is divisive and bad for the club. The board should be actively trying to get all of our fans back to moss lane.
So how big is this core support loss, being due to the continued presence of Grahame Rowley, as opposed to the fact that we are playing in the Evostik league?

As far as any "proof" goes, the only thing anyone has to go on is the 29 that left a game early in protest.
9  General Category / Altrincham FC First Team / Re: winning this league on: April 16, 2018, 08:41:53 PM
Without the same info, i.e average attendances for Tuesdays vs Saturdays in previous seasons, this doesn't prove anything.

Whilst it probably wasn't a drop off of 33% previously, it may well have been (I don't have the figures, or intend on trawling through the stats to show either way). Taking into consideration the complete lack of away support on a Tuesday, it may actually be a similar change in home fans, as a percentage. When getting 1,200 for Saturday home games, were we getting around 800 for Tuesdays? Someone with a lot more knowledge of Alty than me could clarify, I'm sure.
10  General Category / Altrincham FC First Team / Re: Superstition on: April 14, 2018, 09:39:40 PM
We'll pointed out Glyn
11  General Category / Altrincham FC First Team / Re: Barwell : Match Thread on: April 13, 2018, 02:49:23 AM
Can we just beat Barwell and see where we're at 5-00pm

Couldn't agree more
12  General Category / Altrincham FC First Team / Re: First Goal on: April 11, 2018, 12:03:23 PM
Just had a quick look, so could be wrong, we have only failed to win 3 times when scoring first from 26 league games.

26 games scoring first = 71 points (23 wins, 2 draws, 1 loss - avg. 2.73 points per game)

14 games not scoring first/0-0 = 10 points (6 losses, 7 draws, 1 win - avg. 0.71 points per game)

I have no idea if that is around what would be expected.

Hopefully we get the first goal on Saturday!!
13  General Category / Altrincham FC First Team / Re: Barwell : Match Thread on: April 10, 2018, 07:41:05 PM
Why the low guesses on attendance? I think we could be pushing 1,000 on Saturday. We've not had less than 800 on a Saturday since September and with only a few games to go, it should bring a few more along.
14  General Category / Altrincham FC First Team / Re: Altrincham vs Barwell - Dementia Awareness Fixture on: April 08, 2018, 05:53:29 PM
I read it as a fiver for the under 16 and the grandparent as a joint ticket, instead of individually paying.
15  General Category / Altrincham FC First Team / Re: Points Deduction on: April 01, 2018, 07:40:06 AM
Jog on. 1st of April.

Indeed!
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