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Altrincham FC First Team / Re: "[The referee] has played longer than he should have done".
« on: April 03, 2023, 10:37:31 PM »
Quote from: Andrew Flynn on April 03, 2023, 09:01:58 AM
Quote from: Alty Bri on April 03, 2023, 08:40:20 AM
Ah, but here's the rub. The message to fans of teams who are losing going into the final minutes is, you can buy yourself a few more minutes if you chuck a flare onto the pitch. If you're lucky it'll miss the keeper.

I'm not saying that the ref necessarily had a choice, but he will be reflecting on how that call basically condoned hooliganistic behaviour.

You're not buying more time. The game was stopped. Right call from the referee to play out the minute that was lost to deal with the incident and let's be honest, if we were chasing the game and a Halifax smoke bomb was thrown onto the pitch, we would be furious if the referee did not add the extra time on.

How did it get into the ground in the first place? That's the issue.

I think I can answer that. As I've posted previously, I was thoroughly checked by bad attitude steward (on reception at the Oldham game), I suspect because he blamed me for the assault on me at the Notts game that he failed to prevent or deal with. However, it seemed to me that a lot of other people were not being so closely searched. Reading other posts, it seems this may if anything have been worse at the FC end.

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Altrincham FC First Team / Re: "[The referee] has played longer than he should have done".
« on: April 02, 2023, 11:49:11 PM »
Yes. I dare say you are right. Looking at comments from other people, and your comment, it would seem to support my view that holding up a board showing the "at least 'x' minutes of added time" is more of a source of dissension than clarity. Can't we just let the referee make the decisions rather than trying to micro-manage him (or her)?

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Altrincham FC First Team / Well done to Chris Millington
« on: April 02, 2023, 11:17:21 PM »
Congratulations to former Altrincham under 18s coach and local Timperley lad Chris on his achievement in his first season as manager in senior football at FC Halifax Town. I should say I am biased as I know him well from church, but he is a smashing bloke who has previously attended Moss Lane with his family (before Halifax) and I wish him all the best in the final.

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Altrincham FC First Team / Re: Semi Final - Halifax Match Thread
« on: April 02, 2023, 11:07:37 PM »
I have just watched it. I can confirm that from this it is clear that as others have stated there are lots of FC supporters stood against the pitch-side barrier during the shootout, and stewards pitch side of the fence, seemingly not interested (for example at 15:15), and, particularly for the last penalty (15:45) FC supporters are clearly interfering with the net. It would be nice if these clowns could do something about people who actually break ground rules and interfere with the match in progress, rather than blaming victims of unprovoked assaults (which they fail to prevent or do anything about) for their being assaulted. Hard to disagree with the chant at the end on Saturday. Where is "rules are rules" when you need it? Missed chances notwithstanding, utterly shafted.

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Altrincham FC First Team / FAO Wayno
« on: April 02, 2023, 10:31:59 PM »
Dear Mr. Wayno comma

with reference to your recent thread on chants for Altrincham AFC, you may be interested to know that, some years ago I compiled an inevitably non-exhaustive, exhausting list of those Alty chanty thingies. 'Appily I still 'appen to possess the sed list, and would be 'appy to share it with you upon request, no questions asked. Whilst I got as far as chant number 177 ("O Macclesfield is full of sheep), I do not doubt that by now, and in my time watching Alty alone (since 1990) there will easily have been over 200 chants, even under a strict definition of an Alty chanty I should think.

I remain, sir, your 'umble and obedient servant,

yours teasingly etc. etc.

Hugh Cooper esq.

Wayno Wayno give us a song (preferably not the "half a pound of tuppenny rice" one)!

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Altrincham FC First Team / "[The referee] has played longer than he should have done".
« on: April 02, 2023, 09:45:44 PM »
In a good, heartfelt interview with PP after the Town semi, it is suggested that the referee has "played longer than he should have done" (see link).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DAA7saFpg3I

This brings me back to a point I think I've made before. When the 4th official holds up his board saying two minutes added time (something I am against personally as I feel it causes as many problems as it solves), what does it actually mean? Literally 120 seconds stoppage time plus any additional stoppages and discretionary added time? Anything from 60 seconds to 120 seconds? Anything from 120 seconds to 180 seconds? Some random approximation by the referee? And how much discretion does the referee have to add on additional time not for any stoppages if a team is attacking? I believe this started after a world cup match where the referee blew for time as the ball was put into the net from a corner as the referee's stopwatch said time up. After an outcry, referees made sure they didn't do this in repetitions of this situation. But surely you have to draw the line somewhere - how much time is too much? And would any referee (such as a certain David Rock) ever admit that they may have played the wrong amount of stoppage time? It would be nice to have some clarity on this.

Over to you Phil (or Anthony if you're reading!).

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Altrincham FC First Team / Re: Runcorn Linnets match thread
« on: April 02, 2023, 08:46:50 PM »

Whilst we're on the subject of the CSC, is there anyone for whom it would have made a difference if we'd been playing the newly formed Macclesfield club in this tie instead of Runcorn?

For me, it's a pity we couldn't play Runcorn in the final rather than (potentially) Crewe youth team or Congleton. I'd had my  heart set on a proper local derby. That's the one down side of the National League today, the relative lack of local derbies. I wonder if Rochdale could potentially develop into a bit of a derby if they go down, like with Chester? (Though I see Dale won yesterday - you never know under a new manager!).

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Altrincham FC First Team / Re: Semi Final - Halifax Match Thread
« on: April 02, 2023, 07:18:07 PM »
I understand that improving the fanzone is a priority for the board. For me a minimum would be a roof and opening the pod to sell food. I believe it may also be expanded.

Great stuff about the Liverpool fan (though I suspect he wouldn't have enjoyed yesterday's pre-match entertainment)! What a wonderful way Alty have of bringing people together from different clubs and backgrounds.

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Altrincham FC First Team / Re: The definitive Alty FC chants thread
« on: April 02, 2023, 07:13:22 PM »
Quote from: Timperley The Best on April 02, 2023, 06:37:35 PM
I seem to recall in the 80s and maybe 9os when the opposing keeper took a goal kick the golf road would chant youve got aids and vd your not going to wembley .

We used to shout "Dalglish" as the 'keeper took a goal kick. I never did find out why. And then there was the story about the Morecambe 'keeper's mum...

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Altrincham FC First Team / Re: Runcorn Linnets match thread
« on: April 02, 2023, 07:01:03 PM »


I think you're right. Still, I don't think I've ever seen so many penalties not converted (though I seem to remember Birmingham missed all their penalties once, possibly in the days of Barry Fry). And whilst I'd like a top half finish, there's no massive pressure to rest players like there might have been, for example, if it had been played last Tuesday. I reckon let's give it a go!

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Altrincham FC First Team / Re: The definitive Alty FC chants thread
« on: April 02, 2023, 06:57:11 PM »
Quote from: AFC56 on January 11, 2019, 02:19:54 PM
What was the Connor Hampton chant I heard at Guiseley ? Thanks

Reminds me of the chant I read about directed at Hampton and Richmond Borough (known as the Beavers) - "you are Beavers, you are Beavers, we don't give a dam"! And the one about Grimsby legend John-Lewis. They're fans sang "his name's a department store", so some opposition fans sang "he's just a s*** Marks and Spencers"!

One that's been bugging me for a while now is the Wembley chant we haven't heard (or any variant thereof) since probably the days of John King - "we're on the march with Kingy's army, all the way to Wembley". No obvious reason for its retirement I can see, we just don't seem to use it anymore.

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Altrincham FC First Team / Runcorn Linnets match thread
« on: April 02, 2023, 06:34:12 PM »
May as well look to the rest of the season.

So far as I'm concerned we should play a strong team, and certainly Linney (presumably no cup-tied issue?) so if it goes to pens that's at least one we should score. (I seem to remember we won about 1-0 on pens against Vauxhall!). Nothing much to play for in the league, and it'd be nice to take something from the season, it's been a while since we won a trophy.

I think it'd be nice to do a joint Kingy tribute with Runcorn, but in any case, it's about time we played them again in a competitive match. I fancy they'll be up for it.

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Altrincham FC First Team / Re: The definitive Alty FC chants thread
« on: April 02, 2023, 06:27:38 PM »
Quote from: Mausoleum Alty on January 16, 2019, 08:54:00 AM
To the tune of Amarillo in the first play off winning season...
Show me the way to Stoke City
We’ll all be pissed it won’t be pretty...

As in Grass-bank Alty?  :)

Did we really have a song about "I've heard of the Alty Grass-bank"? Presumably an Arsenal song originally.

I did like the one about Stoke City though!

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Altrincham FC First Team / Re: Actually, not that bothered about today's match.
« on: April 02, 2023, 06:21:12 PM »
Quote from: Saughall Robin on April 01, 2023, 12:00:48 PM
You just got that one in in time! 😊😊😊😊

I was panicking by then to be fair!

I thought about putting something about a pitch inspection. Probably a good thing I didn't.

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Altrincham FC First Team / Re: Chequers Scoreboard
« on: April 02, 2023, 06:16:59 PM »
Quote from: rorysgrandad on April 02, 2023, 08:51:57 AM
Quote from: TheCultOfIanTunnacliffe on April 01, 2023, 07:46:36 PM
Quote from: Wilmslow Alty on April 01, 2023, 06:17:10 PM

So, er, what happened to the scoreboard?



We were infoirmed that it was "not working".

It briefly contrived to show the clock at half-time, however it simultaneously advised us that we were playing Notts County.
I thought we were playing them at the  half time break. Very confusing.

Should've gone Amstrad, Spurs '95, the scoreboard worked fine!

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