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Altrincham FC First Team / Re: If we are "Free" from Monday...
« on: July 26, 2021, 04:20:00 AM »
You can pay online and show your ticket on your phone, by printing it off or by using the physical one you're sent in the post. If you can't pay online then I'd imagine most clubs would process your payment over the phone and send it out to you. If you want to pay 'on the day' then you can visit a ticket office and take your ticket to your gate.

It's been the norm well before COVID at most forward thinking clubs so let's not carry on like this is a problematic byproduct of COVID. Given we're a National League club, paying cash on the gate is something we all should've been expecting to see far less, regardless of the pandemic.

It's very common at modern clubs and necessary to improve how you a) handle crowds b) gather more data on who is attending games and c) market future games to them if they opt-in.

I'd be content if we stopped taking cash on the turnstile altogether. We need as many people as possible ordering online in advance, for the reasons given. Our problem is we don't have a ticket office to sweep up last minute attendees, but being encouraged to pay in advance is hardly an affront on one's freedom is it?

how can you show a ticket on a phone? or do you mean fax machine?

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Thanks Sale for the info......agree with most of your response.

Not going to get into a lengthy debate because I think VPs will be defeated in the courts as they are discriminatory and enforce segregation at events based on vaccine status.....hence my term earlier......but just a final point.

Colleague at work, 28, had covid at Christmas (me too) and was in bed quite unwell for 4 days. It was a surprise because he is a semi-pro cage fighter and as fit as you get. A right hard ba$tard, whereas I felt a bit run down and I am nearly 55. He got his first jab and he was even worse, so he is not getting his second jab because he believes he has antibodies and does not want to risk another week off work without pay......I know you agree, but if anyone thinks this is ok, is it right he cannot attend a nightclub or possibly a RL match at Warrington or eventually visit a pub.

Whatever the club might encourage, I would hope they would be against discrimination. 12% of adults have not had these "vaccines" with everyone offered them now, so it is likely to be millions who will not take them for love nor money, including disproportionate numbers of some minority groups. Hopefully this apartheid will be defeated.

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By the  UK government  statistics  (I know) there have been around 129,000 deaths from 5,470,000 cases. That's around a 97.5% survival rate, while other people will have had serious and potentially long-term illnesses. It's high, but a good bit less than 99.9+%.


Sorry if you didn't like the term "anti-vaxxers" for people opposed to vaccinations, who I notice had a violent protest yesterday in London. I thought "medical apartheid" was pretty strong too.

Bricks was just a comment on Mick's last line.

There's no positive discrimination, just discriminaton.

129,000 deaths with, only some of these of. Only idiots think all these would still be alive without this particular bug. 68,000 excess deaths last year, deaths are below average for this year. Of course a lot may die this winter but it won't be because of the minority of people who don't get these injections (which is what they may well tell you.)

Where were you when police brutality was being used against smaller groups of protesters in London during winter, including women (apparently to provoke a reaction)? And how do you expect people to react when they are being treated like second class cirizens? 10% doesn't matter? what, reeally?

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Vaccination doesn't completely prevent you from getting Covid or passing it on, but it significantly reduces the chance of doing so, and, particularly of getting a serious or fatal case.

As an inclusive club, we should really be encouraging as many people as possible to be vaccinated, as not all can be, in order to ensure that more vulnerable supporters can be protected.   I don't believe we should insist on vaccine passports, however, precisely  as not everyone can be vaccinated even if they would like to be.

I  really can't take anti-vaxxers seriously when hypocrites like the right wing journalist Peter Hitchens and the presenters on Fox News in the States rail against vaccines while quietly ensuring they are themselves vaccinated.

No bricks thrown. :)

The experimental gene therapy drugs don't stop transmission, they may reduce symptoms - which would mean people would be more likely to socialise when otherwise they'd stay at home.

Latest  data suggests that  they don't make much difference to hospitalisations and deaths, and quite a lot of people have died from them, but of course you won't have seen that, after all, the BBC apparently has a policy of not giving any air time to people who question them.

The rumour is that the elite get placebos

I see the politics is still alive and well so don't start, London.

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Crazy.....you can be jabbed and still get Covid and still pass it on.....so what purpose do they serve ? Honest question

Thin end of the wedge. As an inclusive club I hope we are not supporting medical apartheid..........Dons helmet and waits for flying bricks  :)

Bang on the money, and I'm seriously worried about next season - as I have been for some time.

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Get your jabs in ....😜😜Vaccination proof may be required to attend sports events of about 20,000 capacity - https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/57905459
f**king great innit? bye bye freedom. 16,000 now apparently so bye bye  Notts (unless it's based on crowds not capacity) unless our overlords grow a back bone

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Altrincham FC First Team / Re: If we are "Free" from Monday...
« on: July 17, 2021, 03:46:39 AM »
With us "free" from next Monday...did we have to get tickets at previous years' away friendlies?

(Strange how ppl go down the conspiracy route when I'm just asking a question!)

You've put free in inverted comments and you're comparing restrictions vs lack of games, like you're worried about a hidden meaning.

Enjoy a pint it's sunny.

I've never needed tickets at Ashton, Nantwich or Curzon before, or for that matter seen anything other than low numbers there.

With the "pingdemic" looking set to continue and some jobs set to be banned to millions of people who could have previously had them (among other things), it's not what some would call free. And it's looking a fair bet that next season will also be disrupted. Get real. This is no laughing matter, lad.

Nb, I basically paid on the gate at Nantwich last pre-season, I'm not bothering next season if I can't pay on the gate (and as I say, looks possible we could end up like last season for some games). Freedom my foot.

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Altrincham FC First Team / Re: If we are "Free" from Monday...
« on: July 17, 2021, 03:37:05 AM »
Because they're aways from home; so it's 7 clubs that have to put them up run by volunteers.

1 game is still TBC about being BCD (Huddersfield).

Clubs like advanced ticket as it guanratees revenue, easier to staff, makes them cashless.

Not everything a conspiracy

I've been to a lot of pre-season games, none of them have ever had tickets. (I seem to remember at Flixton one time a group of us got taken for players and let in for free... lovely hotpot though, those were the days!). At this rate, Wilmslow Albion will need tickets!

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Altrincham FC First Team / Re: If we are "Free" from Monday...
« on: July 17, 2021, 03:34:31 AM »
...why are there tickets for only 3 pre season friendlies...and why is there the necessity for tickets at all?

Tickets? Blimey, not much changes does it? Well if they're determined to keep this nonsense going (as seems the case) I for one have got better things to do with my time than be treated like a disease.

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Altrincham FC First Team / Re: In's and Out's
« on: June 23, 2021, 05:09:36 AM »
I was always finding earings in the back of my car.

Jason Jason Jason Jason Gallagher...

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Altrincham FC First Team / Re: Poll - attendances next season.
« on: June 20, 2021, 03:35:16 AM »
With the season ending today, I am now locking this poll.

The realists are once again in a minority. Still, optimists can be right sometimes and I sincerely hope they are this time (though as I say I have a bad feeling about it). Oh well, we'll see soon enough.

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Altrincham FC First Team / Re: Car park height barrier
« on: June 20, 2021, 03:29:47 AM »
To be fair, there was a media report a bit ago about Butlin's banning people with certain sir names (or last names in modern parlance). It was aimed at certain travelers who had previously booked holidays with them. It just happened to be mostly or entirely Irish names, and obviously affected people who had nothing to do with any issues they had had, and obviously disproportionately of an Irish background. So there are very much still problems with discrimination in society.

At the same time, it is obviously an issue if the club carpark gets taken over as once happened. Just be careful about tarring everyone with the same brush.

(For me, the exciting thing to see is that politics etc. is alive and well on the forum...)

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Altrincham FC First Team / Re: Weymouth Away Stream £10
« on: May 11, 2021, 07:55:43 PM »
I saw a Chester fan up Snowdon last year (September) who said he hated Alty (because they never beat Alty), and he hoped we got relegated. Never likely, and not possible now. A shame for the likes of York though, denied again. Guy Mowbray must be tearing his hair out!

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Altrincham FC First Team / Re: Local Boy Does Well
« on: May 11, 2021, 07:43:08 PM »
Unless I misidentified him, I am sure I saw actor Neil Pearson in the main stand at a game a good few years ago - I forget who we were playing except that we scored our winner after about 12 seconds.
Possibly Mansfield - I recall a very early goal against them, scored while people were still moving round from Golf Road to the pop side. Possibly scored by Chris Senior?

Think so......and then sent off after a tangle with big Kyle



Mick,

Those were actually two separate encounters with Mansfield Town:


(1) Tuesday, 23rd September 2008

Altrincham 1 Mansfield Town 0


Chris Senior scored the winning goal after merely 11 seconds.


(2) Saturday, 10th October 2009

Altrincham 1 Mansfield Town 2


Chris Senior was sent off after 28 minutes and Matt Doughty received a red card after 53 minutes.

Kyle Perry scored one of Mansfield's goals.

Thanks Cult

Almost rigjt

I remember CS pushing KP over right in front of me on the Pop side hoardings.

I remember the 1-2 - my last match for a while, that season that really terrible manager led us to (still) our best league season since 1996. We should have got something that day, and had an equaliser disallowed. I still got a cig burn celebrating though. Those were the days!

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Altrincham FC First Team / Re: Torquay at home
« on: May 10, 2021, 01:54:37 AM »
Given that our current ground capacity is officially over 8000, even 25% (2000ish)would be enough to accommodate all those wishing to go wouldn't it?
10% (800) plus all season ticket holders (327?) would be on par with our average gate last season. Surely that's going to be possible?

Don't forget, Bury AFC allowed 150 fans at Radcliffe (at first), Radcliffe "fc"  allowed 300 at the same ground, which is safe because they play in a different league. Let's be clear, a lot of this was, and remains, nuts.

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