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1  General Category / Altrincham FC First Team / Re: Favourite grounds . on: May 15, 2018, 06:11:27 PM
Weíve been once, twice, three times to Wembley!
But letís not get in to which one!
2  General Category / Altrincham FC First Team / Re: Full-time and proud? on: May 09, 2018, 09:11:52 AM
When we were the champions of non league football nearly 40 years ago, overseas players were practically non existent in English football. Now they're commonplace even in the National League.
There were 92 full time clubs then - there are more like 120 now. I know a handful of part time clubs get along OK at level 5, but basically the dividing line for our club is where it has always been : at the break point between full time and part time football.
As part timers we can realistically hope to make it into the National division. The hard part will always be staying there.
Remember how we scoffed when Boreham Wood went full time on gates of 400 ? Who's laughing now ? Patience is needed, because I'd rather continue as we are and still exist, than overreach and go down the pan.
A succinct and accurate summary of the position. To reach the National division is a realistic goal; to be solvent and extant is, however, my highest priority for the club.

It would be succinct and accurate if it wasn't total bollocks to be fair.

Does this influx of foreign players and expansion of full time clubs only affect Altrincham?? Is our line always to be drawn from whatever other people do? If Wythenshawe Town go full time do we happily sit back cuckolded while they rise above us and we settle down to our nice little level?
Sorry Ballers, you're missing my point. The majority of players in Conference National these days would have been playing in League 2 (or the 4th Division) had we not introduced Johnny Foreigner and his pals into the English game on the back of obscene amounts of money being pumped into it.

The barrier for us was always traditionally the point where full time football ceased to be the norm, and players had other jobs outside the game. AND IT STILL IS !

Unfortunately the number of full time clubs has increased by about 30%, and we will struggle to break into the clique unless we go full time. Right now we don't have the money to do that, so we need to make it our biggest priority to attract extra finance.

The change at the top level of football only affected us because we have not changed accordingly in order to at least maintain our position on the football ladder. We hold fast to the part-time model as team after team around us has found a way to go full-time or semi-full-time and flown past us.
3  General Category / Altrincham FC First Team / Re: Goal of the Season 2017/8 on: April 26, 2018, 08:52:01 PM
Surprised Harrop's goal v Sutton C isn't in there. It definitely looks better than the Ashton one given the camera angle.
4  General Category / Altrincham FC First Team / Re: Altrincham v Marine | Tonight on: April 25, 2018, 08:39:11 AM
Surely we should switch this game to Marine or another venue to give the pitch the best chance of being playable on Sat?
5  General Category / Altrincham FC First Team / Re: Buxton - Match Thread on: April 18, 2018, 08:40:11 AM
Official news will confirm but itís safe to say heís done for the season. This is bad. Hampson back Thursday is a god send.

ADDED: Itís his hamstring, thatís confirmed. Needs to be assessed but first signs are itís a tear. f**ks sake.

So Tom Hannigan is now our only fit centre half. Some sort of irony there.
6  General Category / Altrincham FC First Team / Re: Barwell : Match Thread on: April 14, 2018, 09:04:05 PM
Goal of the season contender from JJ Superb performance from the whole Team,Credit to Barwell gave it a good go in the first half hour.

 If Warrington drop points in the week and we beat Buxton we go to Shaw Lane On Thursday and a Victory will crown us Champions (I Think)

 

Speaking with Brian Flynn earlier, we believe we can actually win it on Tuesday night if:

- We win
- Warrington lose
- Grantham fail to win

Thatís right. And a Warrington draw would effectively do it given our respective goal differences.
7  General Category / Altrincham FC First Team / Re: Stourbridge - Match Thread on: April 08, 2018, 05:17:18 PM
Have we made a mistake by having such a thin squad at this stage? Should we have strengthened more or recalled some loan players or were we just unlucky with the timing of Harrison and Pooleís injuries?
8  General Category / Altrincham FC First Team / Re: Lancaster - Match Thread on: April 07, 2018, 07:48:20 PM
Ill knit the bunting when its mathematicaly confirmed

But that's when we'll need the bunting to be ready. I for one don't want to have to wait for you to knit the bunting to start celebrating.
i consider my self told

You could maybe knit the bunting now but not tell anyone? Perhaps even deny it if asked?
9  General Category / Altrincham FC First Team / Re: Lancaster - Match Thread on: April 07, 2018, 05:52:20 PM
Ill knit the bunting when its mathematicaly confirmed

But that's when we'll need the bunting to be ready. I for one don't want to have to wait for you to knit the bunting to start celebrating.
10  General Category / Altrincham FC First Team / Re: Marine - Match thread (weather, covers) on: April 02, 2018, 03:13:35 PM
I think it was said on Thursday that the drains arenít the problem, itís that the water isnít working its way through the pitch as it should in places. So presumably if we could prevent water getting into the pitch, that would help greatly.
11  General Category / Altrincham FC First Team / Re: Rushall Olympic: Match thread on: March 30, 2018, 03:17:46 PM
Are there any other clubs with the suffix ĎOlympicí?
12  General Category / Altrincham FC First Team / Re: Halesowen Town : Match thread on: March 24, 2018, 07:27:30 PM
How did White do?

He did well. Solid defensively and got forward a good few times. No problem there today.
13  General Category / Altrincham FC First Team / Re: Jake Moult on: March 24, 2018, 05:51:33 PM
That was peak Moult. When heís good, heís miles better than anyone else on the pitch.
14  General Category / Altrincham FC First Team / Re: Mickleover- Match Thread on: March 12, 2018, 11:20:26 AM
Match now re-arranged for Tuesday March 20th, according to main website, though whether this date is at the request of the clubs or the behest of the League isn't clear (Mickleover's scheduled League Cup game on that day has been re-arranged for Thursday 22nd, apparently). We're doing a Warrington in reverse - playing a League game 24 hours before a scheduled Senior Cup game at home to Winsford. The cynic in me wonders if we'll beat Warrington's reported 'crowd' figure of 54 for the Senior Cup game ... I know I won't be present on the Wednesday, though I'll do my best to make the Tuesday game!

I wonder if we'll look to play the CSC game at a different venue? Two games in 24 hours would surely be ruinous to the Moss Lane pitch.
15  General Category / Altrincham FC First Team / Re: Stay away fans and atmosphere on: March 08, 2018, 01:45:06 PM
Iíve long thought that if we could properly quantify how many fans are staying away and so how much income the club is missing out on, that would put more pressure on GR to stand aside than almost anything. Equally if it turned out there really werenít that many of us, that in itself would be worth knowing. As it is we can only guess at the numbers boycotting or staying away in some form or other.

Always up for a sum. Our current average is 800 with effectively no away fans give or take. Last season it was 1,230 which was higher than the Conf Nat relegation season of 1,150.  On the basis of not using last season (bit unreliable given the fall off in gates after Christmas due to results and some very large away followings) and an average of a 200 away following in the Conf Nat Division, I'd put our natural average at about 900 to 950, meaning we're down about 100-150? Let's split the difference and say 125.

Finances

Gate receipts = 125x10x23 = £28,750
Profit on other Match Day Income per head say £2 125x2x23 = £5,750

Rounding up and not counting any other possible losses (sponsorships etc) let's say that costs us £35,000. Given our income in 2016-7 was £562,379 this equates to a reduction of 6.2%. Given gate income will be lower this year due to both attendances and prices, this shortfall will be magnified anyway and is presumably going to be / is being met through other sources.

 





What we don't know if how many of those estimated 125 are staying away for Rowley-related reasons and how many have just fallen away as people do when the team gets relegated.

I would like to see the Rowley Out group or someone else try to draw up a register of protesting/boycotting supporters. Some people clearly wouldn't want to go on such a list and nobody should feel pressured to but it would be a way to demonstrate the strength and extent of the discontent.

I have no alternate to replace Rowley. and I go to games on a regular basis including away games when possible..
Having stated that, I support the "Rowley out " people. I  pay my entrance plus a drink etc but I no longer support such things as the Patrons Scheme, golden goals etc.


That's an important point - it's not just people not going to matches. I don't go to home games anymore but as an exile that only means the club's losing out on maybe £60 a year that way. But I have also withdrawn for the Patrons and Friends and that's another, what, £110 a year. It all adds up.
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