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1  General Category / Altrincham FC First Team / Re: Question from the Archives on: June 30, 2018, 01:46:16 PM
Colleague at work saw my car sticker and told me his brother Mick Moore play for us and Wigan and finished in the USA

Also work with Stu Scheuber who I can remember at Alty

Mick Moore was a striker who I think came through the reserves. I don't think he played too many games.

There were two Mick or Mike Moores who played for us. You are thinking of one who played as a young player around 1996-97, but Mick (this is confusing) is thinking of the one who played for us in the seventies and has his own Wikipedia entry.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mick_Moore

The one whose missed penalty against Scarborough in extra time of the Trophy replay at Rotherham arguably cost us a trip to Wembley.

Mickey Moore was signed by Les Rigby and was a more than decent forward but never really produced the form expected of him and will inevitably always be remembered for that penalty miss. Ironically replaced JR at Wigan for the start of 77-8, after the latter came to Alty via Port Vale having left the Latics earlier in the year.
2  General Category / Altrincham FC First Team / Re: Talking about investment... on: June 13, 2018, 05:31:53 PM
Pukka Pieman as usual delighted to see a lack of investment at the top level of non league football.....shrugs shoulders, no point in having ambitions...may as well give up eh?

1 of 2 things will happen at Gateshead......they will not find an investor capable of taking them forward at full time status so will keep looking but stay as high as they can as a part time sustainable club probably beating Alty at every opportuinity......
or they WILL find another investor, they will go back to full time status, compete at the top of the national league, aim for promotion to the football league, big cup runs and perhaps a trophy final.....

AT LEAST THEY WILL F**KING TRY !!!!!

https://soundcloud.com/northeastfootballpodcast/richard-bennett-on-gatesheads-takeover-collapse

Very interesting interview with Heed's Chair & co-owner on the takeover collapse.

3  General Category / Altrincham FC First Team / Re: Talking about investment... on: June 13, 2018, 12:12:23 PM
I see Gateshead have found new investors to keep the club full time,management structure in place and a vision to take the club forward with the aim of league football,found inside three weeks. Itís no surprise though because the north east isnít impoverished, spennymoor and South Shields arenít already local
Bankrolled nonleague teams and Gateshead donít only average 852 in the national league.......

Gateshead to go part-time after buyer withdraws takeover bid.

Didnt stack up did it  Shocked Roll Eyes

The most concrete result of which has been another of their first team squad signing for York City this morning - I think that's four now.
http://nonleaguedaily.com/york-sign-gateshead-striker-langstaff/
4  General Category / Altrincham FC First Team / Re: another signing to be announced tonight on: May 22, 2018, 11:53:18 AM
An excellent signing, welcome back Sean. Having spoken to him at Warrington after the league game I think he has unfinished business here.
5  General Category / Altrincham FC First Team / Re: John Laidlar: the end of an era on: May 19, 2018, 08:40:46 PM
Mt first website very morning for over 15 yrs, thank you John

Exactly. When in Lisbon I traveled on a funicular railway in tribute. Thanks John.
6  General Category / Altrincham FC First Team / York City - Jason McGill Back as Chairman on: May 17, 2018, 06:10:59 PM
One offer for his 75% shareholding - £0. Club to remain FT.

https://www.yorkcityfootballclub.co.uk/news/official-statement-jason-mcgill
7  General Category / Altrincham FC First Team / Re: Favourite grounds . on: May 15, 2018, 06:22:27 PM
Weíve been once, twice, three times to Wembley!
But letís not get in to which one!

I like this version, perhaps it could be sung alternatively along with the original. You sharpening your pencil for next year's Eurovsion?
8  General Category / Altrincham FC First Team / Re: Favourite grounds . on: May 15, 2018, 06:15:47 PM
Point of Order for the Grounds committee:

1) Is the New Bucks Head a different ground to the old one, given it occupies the same site?
2) More optimistically, is the New Wembley a different ground to the old one?

Next years new grounds for me are Bradford Park Avenue, Chester, Guiseley, Hereford, Spennymoor, plus maybe Telford

And I have home matches at Brackley and Leamington (M40 dash!) and Hereford (Direct train from Slough).

Same site is same ground for me. Old Trafford today is unrecognisable from 30 years ago, but it isn't a different venue.

It might look very different, but there are still elements of the ground that haven't changed much over that period, e.g. the South Stand.

Physical continuity is the important issue. If a house has been standing on the same spot for 500 years, but it is knocked down and rebuilt every 100 hundred years, the house standing there now is clearly not the same one as that was there 500 years ago. Despite the fact that it is in exactly the same location as the house 500 years ago.

A complete rebuild is a new ground in my view, as there is no physical continuity with the ground other than its location.

Clearly there could be difficult issues concerning a ground where 99.9% of it has changed but they've kept some old turnstiles or something.

Re: The Buck's Head. The more modern of the old two seated stands is still there, but has been converted to offices with a paddock terrace. So Bill, as self appointed arbiter you are NOT entitled to a new notch. More generally I have to disagree with Jimmy re: a complete rebuild occupying 100% the same site, if only because it would make '3 times to Wembley' redundant. You have to think these things through.

It wouldn't make it redundant though, it's still true.

Both these statements are true, and not contradictory:

Altrincham have played at Wembley three times.
The New Wembley stadium is a different stadium from the old Wembley Stadium.

from the song [last line]

'And it looks like we're going AGAIN'

https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/again

i.e. Implying to return to the same place, not a new place.
9  General Category / Altrincham FC First Team / Guiseley - Revert to Part-Time Status on: May 15, 2018, 05:53:58 PM
Marcus Bignot as joint manager too.

http://guiseleyafc.co.uk/bignot-and-oneill-join-as-joint-managers-with-clayton-as-assistant/
10  General Category / Altrincham FC First Team / Re: Favourite grounds . on: May 15, 2018, 05:48:19 PM
Point of Order for the Grounds committee:

1) Is the New Bucks Head a different ground to the old one, given it occupies the same site?
2) More optimistically, is the New Wembley a different ground to the old one?

Next years new grounds for me are Bradford Park Avenue, Chester, Guiseley, Hereford, Spennymoor, plus maybe Telford

And I have home matches at Brackley and Leamington (M40 dash!) and Hereford (Direct train from Slough).

Same site is same ground for me. Old Trafford today is unrecognisable from 30 years ago, but it isn't a different venue.

It might look very different, but there are still elements of the ground that haven't changed much over that period, e.g. the South Stand.

Physical continuity is the important issue. If a house has been standing on the same spot for 500 years, but it is knocked down and rebuilt every 100 hundred years, the house standing there now is clearly not the same one as that was there 500 years ago. Despite the fact that it is in exactly the same location as the house 500 years ago.

A complete rebuild is a new ground in my view, as there is no physical continuity with the ground other than its location.

Clearly there could be difficult issues concerning a ground where 99.9% of it has changed but they've kept some old turnstiles or something.

Re: The Buck's Head. The more modern of the old two seated stands is still there, but has been converted to offices with a paddock terrace. So Bill, as self appointed arbiter you are NOT entitled to a new notch. More generally I have to disagree with Jimmy re: a complete rebuild occupying 100% the same site, if only because it would make '3 times to Wembley' redundant. You have to think these things through.
11  General Category / Altrincham FC First Team / Re: Favourite grounds . on: May 15, 2018, 10:13:32 AM
New grounds for me are Curzon, FC Confused, Spennymoor and Leamington, although I've been to the latter's previous home. As regards the day I reckon both Banbury/ Brackley and Hereford have the makings of a decent trip. York speaks for itself.  
12  General Category / Altrincham FC First Team / Re: Talking about investment... on: May 09, 2018, 03:15:05 PM
Who'd Buy a Club Like Alty?

1. Football Benefactor - see Macc Town.

2. Asset Stripper - normally lends £££s to the club secured against the ground. Call the loan in, land sold off to repay loan to new ground / ground share / go bust. We don't own the ground but have an 80 year lease with a restrictive covenant but now have a charity as a tenant. Complicated so not attractive.

3. Vanity Project - see AFC Fylde or AQUAFORCE

4. Business Hybrid - see Fleetwood or FGR- redevelop ground as business HQ and/or use football club as marketing vehicle for business and vice versa.

5. 'Altrincham Reboot' - link the club with renaissance of the town and it's businesses (back to White & Swales?) see Sutton, Bromley.

Any more?
13  General Category / Altrincham FC First Team / Re: Southport sack Kevin Davies on: May 08, 2018, 05:47:36 PM
Salford also part company with their management team

Why ffs they have just got promoted Huh

http://www.thenationalleague.org.uk/shock-as-salford-city-part-ways-with-johnson-and-m-50427
 
Morley added: ďWe have always given everything to the club and although we couldnít come to an agreement on our future we would like to thank the club for the opportunities they have given us. The fans have been exceptional and we will miss them but want to wish the club every success in the National League."

And that boys and girls is how to draft a Non Disclosure Agreement.
14  General Category / Altrincham FC First Team / Re: Next season's squad on: May 01, 2018, 12:18:13 PM
We need two more strikers - Hardy and Newby would be awesome.
On what I saw at Buxton, Hardy is overrated.

Hulme, Shaw and Hardy were the best number 9s in the Evostik. Whether or not any of them would adapt to the higher level is of course debatable. I'd give a little shout for Jordan Cover at Atherton Colls, but not sure if his work commitments would make it difficult.


I think it's fair to say Jordan proved himself at Conf North level with Salford, he was offered a f/t contract after all. I'm sure clubs in that league would've snapped him up but for our contacts - remember he, James Poole and JJ all played in their play-off semi vs Halifax last season. Shaw looked a decent player to me and is available.
15  General Category / Altrincham FC First Team / Re: Admission prices next season on: April 30, 2018, 09:59:07 AM
Just for the record I think Buzz would have been OK but he would have needed time to learn. PP is already up to speed.
What a staggering statement. In a parallel universe, Rowley got his wish and Buzz stayed on. Alty went into the last game of the season battling Hednesford for 17th place in the league in front of 382.

I think that wins by a country mile the maddest post on here all season. It doesnít bear thinking about if heíd got the job over Parky.

Surely of much more significance is BPA getting to the play-offs little more than a year after being relegation certainties. It does beg the question where we might be today if Bower and Boshell's application for our job had been accepted after Neil Young left. We've seen what this club is capable of with a bright and ambitious management team with fresh ideas. Really looking forward to seeing what PP and NS can do next season.   
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