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1  General Category / Altrincham FC First Team / Re: Stalybridge - Match thread on: Yesterday at 09:15:16 AM
Well, the snow has arrived up here! Hoping (a) that the game will be on & (b) that the weather doesn't disrupt public transport so I can get there. If we were playing at Bridge I'd be worried about prospects of play. 
2  General Category / Altrincham FC First Team / Re: Stay away fans and atmosphere on: March 16, 2018, 02:01:42 PM
I'm trying to point out that no matter what level we are playing at there will always be someone who thinks we should be further up the hierarchy. Yes, it can happen. Wigan springs to mind but it's rare and I really can't see it happening when we are so close to Eastlands and Old Trafford. In the meantime I'm happy to be entertained
Most are happy to be entertained. Most also realise that Championship/Premiership is definitely unobtainable for a club of our size and our catchment area (given the teams already in the same catchment area), but that shouldn't stifle some level of ambition to compete at the highest level possible.
Agreed - where I think you & I differ is as to what level is the highest possible, or perhaps in my case desirable would be a better word. I don't see the Football League as practically possible for us for a good number of years to come, on either economic or footballing grounds, and to be honest I don't personally regard it as being desirable either, for the reasons I outlined earlier. I can stomach (just) the restrictive atmosphere of the Conference, North or National, as I do think that for a semi-professional club to compete at ConfNat level represents a positive and worthwhile goal, but for myself I wouldn't cross the street, let alone undertake a 15-mile journey by public transport, to watch Football League. Put bluntly, who would want to follow another Bury, Oldham, Rochdale or these days even Bolton? Not me.
3  General Category / Altrincham FC First Team / Re: Stay away fans and atmosphere on: March 16, 2018, 12:16:46 PM
It really does depend on what your aspirations are Matt. Ultimately you are looking at winning the Premiership. I'll be long gone before then. I'm not interested in watching a bunch of players trying to con a referee. I'm much happier watching honest endeavour in non-league football  trying to win a match.
I do go and watch professional football from time to time and find myself laughing at the players antics. I think I am embarrased for them.
This is the main point as far as I for one am concerned. I don't think anyone is looking at the Premiership (!), by the way, but for a number of people - certainly a number of those with whom I associate, who tend to be non-shouters by instinct - one of the major attractions of Alty FC is precisely that it isn't and doesn't aspire to be full-time or Football League. Take my own case - if I wanted to watch full-time Football League I could walk to a League One ground from where I live in less than 20 minutes and there are three more within easy reach. If I wanted ersatz Football League I'm a 15/20 minute bus ride away from FCUM; if I wanted Premiership the Wastelands are a bus ride and a short walk away. I don't wish to watch either. Quite apart from the local link through family and almost 50 years attendance at Moss Lane, what I want to watch are real people (rather than over-hyped, over-paid & under-talented 'superstars') giving 100% in an effort to win a match; where I want to watch from is pitch-side rather than at a distance; and I want the freedom to stand where I wish & with whom I wish. All of these Alty FC has given me and will, I hope, continue to do so. If we had got into the League in 1980 or 1991 I suspect "suck it & see" for a season would have been my rather reluctant approach, but that situation is unlikely to recur.
Alty's natural home at the moment is probably the Conference North, although it is perfectly reasonable & realistic to aim for a place in the National division. The down-side of that for me is the degree of restriction it places on spectators and the 'tribal' element that gets more pronounced the higher up the ladder you go. Don't get me wrong - I'm quite prepared to be 'tribal' when we play Macc or Vics - that's called local rivalry & might even extend to Stockport, but in the main I & many of those with whom I associate go to games to watch both sides, enjoy each other's company & be entertained rather than indulge in histrionics.
Let's hope the present management can get us back into the division in which I believe we belong, & take it from there as & when it happens.  
4  General Category / Altrincham FC First Team / Re: Shawe lane on: March 15, 2018, 12:09:31 PM
In a way it's a pity they're not playing as it means Stalybridge will be fresher on Saturday.
5  General Category / Altrincham FC First Team / Re: Workington match thread on: March 13, 2018, 09:27:00 AM
Looking promising, thanks in advance to all that have worked on the pitch to get us where we are now today.
Seconded! A performance like the first half last Tuesday would reward their efforts suitably - and a consistent electricity supply this evening would do the same!
6  General Category / Altrincham FC First Team / Re: Cheshire senior cup on: March 12, 2018, 07:49:03 PM
I think I'm right in saying that the Cheshire FA competition rules stipulate a minimum adult admission charge of £5 for matches in the Senior Cup. I would check it on their website but the relevant section appears to be down at the minute ...
7  General Category / Altrincham FC First Team / Re: Mickleover- Match Thread on: March 11, 2018, 09:50:36 PM
Match now re-arranged for Tuesday March 20th, according to main website, though whether this date is at the request of the clubs or the behest of the League isn't clear (Mickleover's scheduled League Cup game on that day has been re-arranged for Thursday 22nd, apparently). We're doing a Warrington in reverse - playing a League game 24 hours before a scheduled Senior Cup game at home to Winsford. The cynic in me wonders if we'll beat Warrington's reported 'crowd' figure of 54 for the Senior Cup game ... I know I won't be present on the Wednesday, though I'll do my best to make the Tuesday game!
8  General Category / Altrincham FC First Team / Re: Season extension on: March 10, 2018, 06:32:35 PM
Extending a season sets a precedent, when is it done.  Does it give an advantage to a club that doesnt get its fixtures completed.  If all clubs have a backlog fair enough but this is unlikely to be the situation.
Cheshire cup to be a preseason comp is the answer
There are over 20 clubs competing in the CSC this season. I don't imagine that the Cheshire FA would be prepared to tell some NWCL clubs that they don't count as 'senior'. As it stands I would think the competition is too unwieldy to be run as a pre-season affair, much as we might wish it to be.
The fact is that in order to take part in official leagues & national cups you have to be affiliated to a county FA. In that sense the county associations have their clubs over a barrel; they can insist that member clubs take part in the county cup; it can't just be done away with.
As regards extending the season, as was said earlier on this thread, clubs will not want to pay players beyond their existing contracts, which I think tend to be of 40 weeks' duration. If that remains the case, in essence players are not paid - because they aren't employed by the clubs - in May, June or July. If a club is involved in play-offs it will probably make enough money from the game(s) to finance one extra week's wages but that would only affect a limited number. The point about the league restructuring this summer is also a sound one. My own preferred solutions would be (a) to discontinue the League Cup competition, which would free up a couple of dates & (b), perhaps more contentious, to limit numbers in any division to 22 clubs at most & 20 for preference (when the APL was created in 1979 it had just 20 member clubs, by the way).
9  General Category / Altrincham FC First Team / Re: Season extension on: March 10, 2018, 01:17:55 PM
We still have one free Tuesday on the 24th Apr when Mickleover donít have a game, the Cheshire cup will have to be fitted in somewhere if we get through
Hopefully the League (who make fixture arrangements rather than the clubs at this level) will have noticed this & will take appropriate action.
10  General Category / Altrincham FC First Team / Re: Mickleover- Match Thread on: March 09, 2018, 05:41:28 PM
I gather that there was a half-hour period when the website was disrupted earlier today but it's now back to normal (tho' I had to refresh to get it working!) & I am told that the mobile version should now be working too.
11  General Category / Altrincham FC First Team / Re: Mickleover- Match Thread on: March 09, 2018, 04:04:36 PM
Main site advises there will be a pitch inspection in the morning  Sad Lets hope this just precautionary.
Sincerely hope so. By the way, all I'm getting from the main website at the moment is news from last Monday. Something up with the desktop version now?
12  General Category / Altrincham FC First Team / Re: Stourbridge - Match thread on: March 06, 2018, 12:13:16 PM
Delighted to read on main website that the game is on. Sincere thanks to all who have worked to make this possible!
13  General Category / Altrincham FC First Team / Re: Stourbridge - Match thread on: March 05, 2018, 02:09:22 PM
It rained a bit yesterday but there wasn't a lot of snow for us last week and there was a good drying wind on Friday and Saturday.
At the moment I'm confident the game will happen but I haven't looked at the forecast.
BBC weather forecast has light showers from 7pm-ish this evening, light rain overnight, then dry from about 7am tomorrow with a bit of a breeze. To be honest, if that were to be enough to prevent the match going ahead we have bigger problems with the pitch than perhaps any of us had thought.
As to the game - as we've never played them before there's not a lot to go on, but we perhaps need to get going a bit quicker than has sometimes been the case after a couple of postponements.  
14  General Category / Altrincham FC First Team / Re: where did you end up ? on: March 02, 2018, 09:26:47 PM
I recall the Rhyl v Macc game - the coach got there in time for the second half if I remember rightly.
I also remember going up to Scarborough by car one very wet Saturday to find the game called off & ending up at Whitby v Guiseley - my first visit to that ground, a mudbath pitch that wouldn't have been passed fit nowadays. Whitby won 3-1.
Going way back we went to Rossendale for a 1st Round Cup-tie; it was called off & the coach driver wouldn't take us to Bury v Bolton - said he had to go back to the depot if our game was postponed.
Days long ago ...
15  General Category / Altrincham FC First Team / Re: CSC Tonight on: February 27, 2018, 01:10:21 PM
Winsford it is then God knows when we can fit that in
Well, as of now I don't think we have a midweek game next week ...
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