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1  General Category / Altrincham FC First Team / Re: Oh look on: January 12, 2018, 03:19:06 PM
The bigger issue here is that CO92 may well be extremely famous, rich and a marketing dream which means sponsorship and investment will come to them, more importantly compared to us they are young and fresh.

They are attracting a young fanbase and capturing peoples imaginations.

We arent, we're languid. We are basically a modern example of how a company/football club shouldnt market itself.
2  General Category / Altrincham FC First Team / Re: 1874 Northwich Match Thread on: January 10, 2018, 08:39:52 AM
Is the final at Gresty Road then?
3  General Category / Altrincham FC First Team / Re: 1874 Northwich Match Thread on: January 09, 2018, 10:17:32 PM
We really should be beating teams like this etc.

All the more odd that we did for a change!
4  General Category / Altrincham FC First Team / Re: Farsedly Celtic - Match Thread on: January 08, 2018, 03:11:32 PM
Hannigan has been brilliant alongside Harrison. I don't think we have conceded a goal when Dens has STARTED at RB. He came on against Witton and didn't start against Warrington in the trophy replay. Dens has been quality. The whole defence have been spot on.

Absolutely and going for the cliche coupon buster, if you hold possession like we are doing this season, the opposition are less likely to have chances to score. I do think it's fair to say the Workington and Witton defeats were down to very specific circumstances and they account for 9 of the 21 goals conceded thus far. It means we've let in 12 goals in the other 24 games played, which will always give us a more than even chance of winning, as Saturday showed.   

We might be seeing a lot more of those Witton circumstances though and I hope that the management team have taken that on board and prepared  accordingly. I have some faith that they have.

I imagine PP is surprised at the state of the pitch. If we want to play sexy football in this league then we need to have a decent playing surface at home because we cant reply on the opposition for that.
5  General Category / Altrincham FC First Team / Re: Ejected from the ground on: January 02, 2018, 12:18:47 AM
Shame on you, a life time supporter that has mental issues, disgusting

How do you know he has mental issues?

Lifelong or not he canít behave like that. Itís not like heís not had fair warning prior to today? Iíve known him and his brother over 20 years. They have had countless warnings for aggression, racism, foul abuse towards our fans, opposition fans and players alike.

How would we all feel if we just accepted this behaviour because itís the good old Birch brothers and theyíre a bit mentally ill and then one of them abuses the wrong fan and gets shoed in properly? That or they get someone else battered as once nearly happened at Tamworth.

If they are mentally ill or unstable a football ground isnít the place for them.
6  General Category / Altrincham FC First Team / Re: Witton Match Thread on: January 01, 2018, 05:54:05 PM
Is the pitch going to cost us more points? It wonít be getting better any time soon!
7  General Category / Altrincham FC First Team / Re: FANTASY FOOTBALL - SEASON 2 on: January 01, 2018, 09:22:17 AM
It was nice for a little while
8  General Category / Altrincham FC First Team / Re: Altrincham v Shaw Lane AFC : Match OFF on: December 09, 2017, 04:15:46 PM
Poor form all round this playing it out on the forum.

The board will have a good laugh at this and see any movement against them splintering and falling apart.

Other clubs will just have a good old laugh at it too.

For the record Iím amazed that given weíve known about the fixture for a while, had no game for a week and known they werenít full strength and we are or are abouts, that we somehow failed to get the standing water off the pitch. Itís pretty tinpot and whilst I think itís ludicrous to believe it was done on purpose I do think itís typical of the clubs failings off the pitch.

Also, having a go at the people who give up time and money to do a fantastic job making the club look professional through social media or whatever is not on.
9  General Category / Altrincham FC First Team / Re: weather or not the snow will fall !! on: December 08, 2017, 02:21:12 PM
Blue sky and a mild 3 degrees here in the Bucks/Oxon borderlands.

It would really help us kick on over xmas if we got a result over them tomorrow. Lets hope the pitch holds up overnight and the club are doing all they can to protect it.
10  General Category / Altrincham FC First Team / Re: AGM this evening... on: November 23, 2017, 01:30:15 PM
I find it really sad that because Rowley refuses to step down people like Derek get dragged in for a bit of criticism.....

really does keep a toxic air around the club yet Rowley is quoted on the main site as saying "the atmosphere was now positive. Grahame thanked the attendees and spectators for their patience during last season's troubled times. "

Grahame Rowley takes the majority of the stick for our situation and rightly so, however the rest of the board can not be held blameless.

It is because of the insular way in which this club has been ran, that our board has lacked any strength, relying solely on the same people.

The club is scared of anything new. New ideas, new skills and new people.

Somebody said it is "now about skills". It has always been about skills. The Chairman has no skills whatsoever when it comes to dealing with other people,or with running a football club well.

My question sill stands, what is the purpose of appointing Derek to the board for another three years? What skill set do all of the board members bring? I think it is blatantly obvious what Mr Waterson brings (and Hashtag Alty has an interesting stat about things that have gone from "ideas" to "production" over the past few months) but it is not so easily seen across the rest of the board. That is the concern, and it is GR that should be held responsible for that, as he has allowed it to happen by not being proactive.

And that stat is that of THIRTEEN ideas properly discussed (ie. feasible with the resources, budget and time we have and clear action plan set out) with Mr Waterson (and Rob) SEVEN have been successfully implemented or will be successfully implemented. One was vetoed by a certain board member, 3 done by other clubs, and two are in the pipleline

Actioned/Being actioned since July.

  • Launching a Spotify alongside a musical partner
  • WhatsApp
  • Football Manager Manager

  • Our own Fantasy Football game
  • Downloadable Calandar
  • Webesite update
  • Crowdfunding


Ideas not done

  • Metrolink Fixture list - Metrolink wouldnt do it unfortunately

An additional 3 ideas were implemented by other clubs/businesses, and one was voet'd by the club, two are in the pipeline.


Very impressive.

I think for some other board members the fact you dedicate your time as a volunteer and being a huge fan seems to be enough.

Whilst it should be rewarded I do think what we really need is someone who is a bit more disruptive and willing to look at a new vision for the club. There's very little that distinguishes us from any other non-league club in the north west and given the local competition we need to do better.
11  General Category / Altrincham FC First Team / Re: AGM this evening... on: November 22, 2017, 12:17:16 PM


Its irrelevant how many shares a director owns in this discussion.

The shareholders - whoever they may be, elect the board of directors to run the club in their best interests. Thats where shareholder involvement ends.

At the AGM 16 shareholders turned up and supported the current board by re-electing Derek and electing Bill.

The board of directors then run the club/business together as they see fit - I've not seen the internal constitution of the board rules but I assume within a board meeting the directors have an equal say and vote in any decisions, possibly a casting vote from the chairman if there is a tie.

You may disagree with the shareholder's appointment of directors - but that is their choice as they own the club.

You may disagree with the directors running of the club - but again it is their remit to run the club as best they see fit and make many decisions each year to do so.


Of course, it's relevant. Without Shareholders making him a director, he could not be chairman.

Point 1. The shareholders elect a man with just 4% to the board of directors. This is done because of his Simon Richman attitude to being a director and an easy choice.
Point 2.  As the shareholders have yet to elect anyone other than Grahame who wants his job, they have essentially given him the control of the club (By appointing him head of the people "whose remit to run the club as best they see fit").

He owns run 4% but given the position, he has carved himself into (the club wouldn't run without him, they cry, his influence and therefore control is far greater than the 4% which he owns.



Its still not relevant. Shareholders every day elect directors, chairman etc who have 0% of the company - you dont need to own a company to run it - I could own 100% of Alty and elect whoever I like to run - its the shareholders free choice.

You state again " therefore control is far greater than the 4% which he owns" so the confusion continues - ownership is nothing to do with control. You cant have shareholders involved in decisions on day to day running or nothing would ever get done.



 

If you owned 100% then you would have control.

There are other parties with around 4% who have less control, due to their influence, than Grahame does.

Grahame control in day to day affairs outstrips someone who owns less than 1/20th of the business.



The other shareholders can propose themselves to the board and be voted in. The shareholders could propose you to the board and you then get voted in and then you would have more power than the 'owners'.

The chairman has not done anything underhand in assuming his control of the club he is fulfilling a role asked of him.

The issue is he isnt very good at it as far as most of us are concerned

There is not a significant enough shareholding or consensus on the board that agrees with that and so his leadership is not being challenged.
12  General Category / Altrincham FC First Team / Re: Sutton Coldfield Match Thread on: November 20, 2017, 07:44:59 AM
I saw about 10 people just walk through the gates. Would have put the crowd closer to 400. Not surprised if only 269 paid, including all Alty fans credit where itís due
13  General Category / Altrincham FC First Team / Re: Sutton Coldfield Match Thread on: November 18, 2017, 08:35:40 PM
That was ridiculously easy.

Well done lads. Hulme should have had a hatful

14  General Category / Altrincham FC First Team / Re: Absolutely disgraceful on: November 06, 2017, 06:06:18 PM
No way they could have handled the furore of a tv broadcast and a football match at same time if we took 250 and their usual 87 fans turned up. Would have had the place in tatters.

Amazed they managed to get the Mansfield game on with the worry to be honest.

What a farce.
15  General Category / Altrincham FC First Team / Re: Andy Reid - RIP on: October 28, 2017, 08:12:01 PM
Legendary stuff then!
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