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Absolutely!  As a Christian myself I thought a lot about how I would have reacted had I been in the playing squad for the rainbow kit match too.  For what it’s worth my conclusion was that I would have gladly worn the anti-discrimination logo the shirt featured but could not in good conscience have worn a pride shirt and would have had to make myself unavailable for the game (unless I was I was in goal!)

Good Friday is an interesting one. There is nothing biblical that says good Friday should have any particular rememberence or restrictions around it but it is clearly an important day. Many churches hold services in the morning so I think I could get comfortable with going to church in the morning and playing in the afternoon but it’s a personal decision I think.

As for playing on a Sunday “the sabbath was made for man, not man for the sabbath” (Mark 2:27) so if I observe a different day of the week as my day of rest, kept holy for God then that’s ok. After all our vicar has Tuesdays as his day off because clearly he has to work sundays!

Which makes me wonder how he felt about being put in the position of having to chose between the position his faith takes and that publicly espoused by his employer.

Without wishing to be provocative, did you ever wonder how Christian players felt about playing on Good Friday? Wasn't there a Scottish (I think) player who had it in his contract that he wouldn't be called upon to play on a Sunday?

Which makes me wonder how he felt about being put in the position of having to chose between the position his faith takes and that publicly espoused by his employer. Putting people in that position is the very opposite of being inclusive

Quote from: MarpleAlty on April 13, 2021, 07:54:36 PM

Quote from: CRT Butty on April 13, 2021, 07:43:57 PM

I have no time for religion, if people want to believe something that's fine. What does concern me is the club should treat all faiths equally. Anybody put Jedi on the census form?

*SIGH* once again, for the people at the back...

Just because we're talking about ONE religion in this specific case (as it's Ramadan, no less) - doesn't mean we don't care as much about other religions. At no point has the club suggested otherwise, nor treated any faith differently.

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That last statement isn’t exactly true though is it?  I don’t recall an Easter video explaining why Christian players or fans may have struggled with playing a match on Good Friday (if it weren’t for the tragic circumstances this year). We have treated the Muslim faith differently, not complaining just pointing out that equality is impossible to achieve. It’s impossible to please everyone though as we would have proved if our Muslim players had been here for the match in the rainbow kit. The no discrimination badges were one thing but we couldn’t or shouldn’t have asked those whose faith forbids homosexuality to play ina shirt that takes pride in it.

One could say a few things in reply to this but, just on a point of fact, Yusifu Ceesay was a used substitute in the rainbow shirts game.

Wow.

That's the trouble when you start bringing politics into it. There's no positive discrimination, just discrimination, some say. Still, there is this to be said. I remember reading an article some years ago about how young "Asian" players were not being given a chance by professional football clubs because apparently the hierarchy at such organisations had an attitude that "Asians" did not make good footballers, and feeling shocked that such attitudes persisted in football in the 21st century. It featured a player who was setting all sorts of records in an amateur league but was not getting a look in when he went for trials. My bottom line is that everyone from whatever background should be given a fair chance, so anything that can help to give such players the chance they deserve, as long as it is respectful to everyone, must be a good thing.

In the spirit of increasing understanding, I  should add that I will never go to a match at 3pm on Good Friday, this being the holiest hour in the Christian year (and I'm sure our vibrant community of Kerala Catholics would agree), which obviously makes it less worth while for me to get a season ticket whilst leagues and clubs persist in this practice. (I'm obviously speaking as a Christian, for those who don't know...)

Why have you put quotation marks around the word Asian? Do you not believe in Asia?

Some website this.

Quote from: rorysgrandad on April 13, 2021, 08:33:22 PM

Quote from: Hugh on April 13, 2021, 04:20:51 AM

My favourite old school bogs were at Workington, about 20 years ago for a match against Bradford. Overgrown, and I'm pretty sure unchanged from the FL days. Bootham Crescent wasn't bad too. Incidentally, why did they never replace the toilets by the popular side? Used to be a snack bar there too.

What, inside the toilets?

Near enough. Can't have been more than a few yards between them and the Safe hut/snack bar/broom cupboard.

There was a constant battle between the heady aroma of sizzling bacon cooking and the sweet scent of stale urine. Ah.

Quote from: Saughall Robin on April 06, 2021, 12:35:05 PM

I think it's clear to everyone that we're not going to be able to get a millennium-high end of season position unless we're very very lucky indeed.
But the main thing is that we've improved year on year and we'd have been more than happy with our present position. With a few exceptions we've been very competitive.
We all (including the management team) know where we need to improve but we've got to stay working within our means and trust PP and co to come through. I'm convinced they will
I believe everyone on here has the best interests of Alty at heart and I'm heartened that virtually all 'criticism' is well meant and constructive. I'd hate PP to read the forum and think we weren't behind him. We all are, and we need to recognise how great we're doing against some big outfits.


At the very least we'll finish highest of the four promoted teams and that's good in itself. To finish in the top half, which could still happen, was beyond my wildest dreams at the start of the season.

Come on you Supers!!!!

I think you're being a bit pessimistic there. If we can reach 52 points from our 42 games that would be our best return on ppg at this level since 1996. That's 11 points from the remaining nine games, seven of which are at home - still perfectly doable.

58 points in 2009-10 if you count the Chester games, equivalent to about 53 this season. Still, as far as I'm concerned, we've done very well, and I would have been happy just to stay up. And we can reasonably hope to improve next season!

Quote from: Frosty on April 03, 2021, 03:28:26 PM

Yes very bizarre all these new stewards

Quote from: wayno on April 03, 2021, 09:48:29 AM

Quote from: Sale Holmfield on April 02, 2021, 07:32:31 PM

Actually, it was us who were due to play Macclesfield on 22nd May, while Yeovil were down to play Dover, but the same principle applies.

As I have discussed offline, although it might seem unfair  to some that we get two home games with fans allowed at the end of the season, other clubs have already have fans present mid-season, so I see no reason why we can't, as it is after the government's step when fans are allowed at elite matches.

just buy a high vis jacket and become a steward and watch every game

more about now than when we played Chester at home 👀😂😭

Wayno, give us a song, Wayno, Wayno, give us a song!

And let's loan some of the ground to be used as "gardens", like at Marine (v Spurs) - and let's get someone to put a shed half way up one of those houses behind the Chequers End while we're at it!