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Altyant

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Re: The Alty Swingometer
« Reply #105 on: April 22, 2012, 08:59:10 PM »

I would only put us at 60%, without Reeves49% :(

Take away Reeves goals and trust me it does not leave you with 49%

without Reeves goals we would have been relegated by a mile

currently 13 points above relegation.........what price 44 goals?

25%

So nobody elese would have scored any goals in that time?
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John Crewe

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Re: The Alty Swingometer
« Reply #106 on: April 22, 2012, 09:03:20 PM »

I would only put us at 60%, without Reeves49% :(

Take away Reeves goals and trust me it does not leave you with 49%

without Reeves goals we would have been relegated by a mile

currently 13 points above relegation.........what price 44 goals?

25%

So nobody elese would have scored any goals in that time?

yes but not enough to keep us up

how many points do you think Reeves goals have been worth this season?

and how many do you think someone else would have scored in his place?
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Butty

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Re: The Alty Swingometer
« Reply #107 on: April 22, 2012, 09:41:55 PM »

I would only put us at 60%, without Reeves49% :(

Take away Reeves goals and trust me it does not leave you with 49%

without Reeves goals we would have been relegated by a mile

currently 13 points above relegation.........what price 44 goals?

25%

So nobody elese would have scored any goals in that time?

yes but not enough to keep us up

how many points do you think Reeves goals have been worth this season?

and how many do you think someone else would have scored in his place?

I'm not doubting the point you're making, but how many of them goals were meaningless (i.e goals that didnt actually earn us points)
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John Crewe

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Re: The Alty Swingometer
« Reply #108 on: April 22, 2012, 11:35:31 PM »

for the record if you deducted all Reeves goals this season we would now have 35 points - so not that many pointless meaningless goals as you think

now add your hypothetical replacement striker and how many points do we have?
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markecky

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Re: The Alty Swingometer
« Reply #109 on: April 22, 2012, 11:43:28 PM »

Why do we need to do lots of hypothetical workings?

If we'd have had McGivern as a partner from the start then we might have made the playoffs regardless of the state of the midfield or defence.

If we'd have unearthed the right defensive pairings we could have won lots of games one nil without Reeves.  It's all pie in the sky.

To say we would have been relegated is nonsense and someone with your level of non league knowledge knows it really, you've just become clouded with a hatred of the current manager.
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John Crewe

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« Reply #110 on: April 22, 2012, 11:55:41 PM »

Why do we need to do lots of hypothetical workings?

If we'd have had McGivern as a partner from the start then we might have made the playoffs regardless of the state of the midfield or defence.

If we'd have unearthed the right defensive pairings we could have won lots of games one nil without Reeves.  It's all pie in the sky.

To say we would have been relegated is nonsense and someone with your level of non league knowledge knows it really, you've just become clouded with a hatred of the current manager.
35 points without Reeves

if you can not see the problem then it not my judgement clouded

McGivern a better partner than Redshaw? he only had one good game and that was yesterday
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John Crewe

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Re: The Alty Swingometer
« Reply #111 on: April 22, 2012, 11:57:07 PM »

It's interesting as well, because I'm pretty sure Reeves cited Sinnott's appointment as one of his main reasons for staying.
Thats what Damien told you was it????
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Hamilton

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Re: The Alty Swingometer
« Reply #112 on: April 23, 2012, 12:05:32 AM »

It's interesting as well, because I'm pretty sure Reeves cited Sinnott's appointment as one of his main reasons for staying.
Thats what Damien told you was it????

I also seem to remember this.
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markecky

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Re: The Alty Swingometer
« Reply #113 on: April 23, 2012, 12:09:16 AM »

Why do we need to do lots of hypothetical workings?

If we'd have had McGivern as a partner from the start then we might have made the playoffs regardless of the state of the midfield or defence.

If we'd have unearthed the right defensive pairings we could have won lots of games one nil without Reeves.  It's all pie in the sky.

To say we would have been relegated is nonsense and someone with your level of non league knowledge knows it really, you've just become clouded with a hatred of the current manager.
35 points without Reeves

if you can not see the problem then it not my judgement clouded

McGivern a better partner than Redshaw? he only had one good game and that was yesterday


The problem is that we have had a error prone defence all season and little protection for it from the midfield.

Signings in those areas have either failed to live up to expectation or have been not been right for the job.

This has to be improved from the start of next season.

Just to confirm what was being hinted at about me yesterday, and what you were referring to before about "happy clappers" I'm as disappointed as anyone about how the season has panned out.

It depends on how you want to look at things.  I'd prefer to say we missed the playoffs by say 8 points, you prefer to say we were 15 points off relegation. Either way we missed our target this season.

I just don't think that ripping it all up and starting again is the answer.

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John Crewe

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Re: The Alty Swingometer
« Reply #114 on: April 23, 2012, 12:10:25 AM »

What, is it completely unbelievable that I might have spoken to one of the players? That's one of the great things about our club, you can approach people and ask them things. Reeves has respect for Sinnott they were together at Leeds.

no it is not unbelievable at all............i have spoken to Damien many times myself............and recently as well



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John Crewe

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Re: The Alty Swingometer
« Reply #115 on: April 23, 2012, 12:18:22 AM »

yes we must improve

my gripe with the manager is that i have no faith or trust in him getting it right - tactically or attracting the right players

ripping it all up? not really anything to rip up - we have little other than Reeves
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Re: The Alty Swingometer
« Reply #116 on: April 23, 2012, 06:26:29 AM »

We will never know how we would have done without Reeves, nor can any theory be proven. I doubt he will be here next season so then is the time to pass judgment on how we do without him.

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SRT

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Re: The Alty Swingometer
« Reply #117 on: April 23, 2012, 08:53:39 AM »

Swingometer ends at the low end. Yes we have brought on some good forwards Reeves & Lawrie both have or will move on. Depending on who chooses to stay we have little to build on for next season. Sinnot not able to sort defence this season, why should we trust him for next?
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bumble

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Re: The Alty Swingometer
« Reply #118 on: April 23, 2012, 09:02:07 AM »

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Swingometer ends at the low end. Yes we have brought on some good forwards Reeves & Lawrie both have or will move on. Depending on who chooses to stay we have little to build on for next season. Sinnot not able to sort defence this season, why should we trust him for next?

Because Hyde sorted their defence in one summer... As did southport

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Beaver

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Re: The Alty Swingometer
« Reply #119 on: December 16, 2012, 12:37:07 AM »

Time for a return me thinks.

Up to 55% after today.

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