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Football League to expand with 5th division
« on: May 19, 2016, 06:12:31 PM »


http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/36335384

Here is our 4 year plan - to become one of the 8 new clubs in the expanded Football League in 2019-20
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Ashley Alty

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Re: Football League to expand with 5th division
« Reply #1 on: May 19, 2016, 06:23:21 PM »

No no no, just simply wrong.  We already have the "Vanarama National league(s).  

I feel a protest coming on (led by the excellent Against League Three guys)

http://www.againstleague3.co.uk/

« Last Edit: May 19, 2016, 07:05:25 PM by Opposite Alty »
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Re: Football League to expand with 5th division
« Reply #2 on: May 19, 2016, 06:25:25 PM »

Dont see the problem if B teams arent involved , although chairman arent likely to vote to lose income with less games.
« Last Edit: May 19, 2016, 06:37:49 PM by Timperley The Best »
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Ashley Alty

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Re: Football League to expand with 5th division
« Reply #3 on: May 19, 2016, 06:40:28 PM »

It will affect us and all non league clubs adversely, that is the problem. 

We would be a lower level in the pyramid, 7 instead of 6
It would affect attendances at all non league levels
It would affect sponsorship, TV deals
Other stuff I've not thought of

All financial problems for us and non league clubs in England
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Re: Football League to expand with 5th division
« Reply #4 on: May 19, 2016, 06:54:06 PM »

 :( this just sounds like a long term plan for premier league teams to start fielding B teams in the lower leagues, so the football league can get more of the TV money pot. further undermining what little is left of community based football, by widening the gap between the football league and the current National League set up.
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Re: Football League to expand with 5th division
« Reply #5 on: May 19, 2016, 07:59:37 PM »

I'm scratching my head here. This is a proposal to crunch the Championship and Leagues 1 and 2 down from 24 to 20 clubs. So 12 clubs would be displaced to "Division 5" and joined by 8 "Conference" clubs. So Vanarama National would therefore probably have one season with no relegation and 4 clubs promoted as usual to bring that league down to 20 clubs as well. Why the angst guys ? Nobody is mentioning reserve teams in this structure and I can't see any problem with it.
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Re: Football League to expand with 5th division
« Reply #6 on: May 20, 2016, 12:07:07 AM »

With this new proposal, teams would only have to play once a week.
Gosh, who would ever think a full time club playing twice in a week!!!!
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Re: Football League to expand with 5th division
« Reply #7 on: May 20, 2016, 08:19:48 AM »

No need for a winter break either.
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Re: Football League to expand with 5th division
« Reply #8 on: May 20, 2016, 09:00:58 AM »

I can see a few teams board being worried about loss of income from fewer games.

Apart from having a team that is good enough do you think our ground infrastructure is good enough? I know it was in the seventies but the world has moved on.
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Re: Football League to expand with 5th division
« Reply #9 on: May 20, 2016, 10:56:17 AM »

We'd still be one or two tiers below the fl

It wont go through though...too many clubs will worry about the chance of downward displacement...
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Re: Football League to expand with 5th division
« Reply #10 on: May 20, 2016, 11:33:23 AM »

Nicely hidden "Relegation from the Football League would be scrapped in the 2018-19 season". Back to the Future.

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Re: Football League to expand with 5th division
« Reply #11 on: May 20, 2016, 07:45:01 PM »

Nicely hidden "Relegation from the Football League would be scrapped in the 2018-19 season". Back to the Future.



The way I read it was that no relegation from the FL was for that season only. The hidden agenda is that they haven't mentioned what the relegation/promotion system, if any would be after that. If the issue is FL clubs playing too many games, then scrap the Johnstone's Paint trophy and also revamp the League Cup.
Although it is not mentioned, I also suspect that this is a plan to let in Premier League reserve teams. Everything is geared towards the top clubs. Most don't care about non-league football and this has gone on for years. I fear a total separation between the Football league and non-league football. This flies in the face of current non-league successes like Jamie Vardy. A bit like the ICC who answer to Ireland humiliating England at Cricket was to stop them from entering future World Cups.
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Re: Football League to expand with 5th division
« Reply #12 on: May 20, 2016, 10:35:43 PM »

Nicely hidden "Relegation from the Football League would be scrapped in the 2018-19 season". Back to the Future.



The way I read it was that no relegation from the FL was for that season only. The hidden agenda is that they haven't mentioned what the relegation/promotion system, if any would be after that. If the issue is FL clubs playing too many games, then scrap the Johnstone's Paint trophy and also revamp the League Cup.
Although it is not mentioned, I also suspect that this is a plan to let in Premier League reserve teams. Everything is geared towards the top clubs. Most don't care about non-league football and this has gone on for years. I fear a total separation between the Football league and non-league football. This flies in the face of current non-league successes like Jamie Vardy. A bit like the ICC who answer to Ireland humiliating England at Cricket was to stop them from entering future World Cups.

Love the fact that the football league revamp is like that time Henry hand balled it and that. Bore off.
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Re: Football League to expand with 5th division
« Reply #13 on: May 21, 2016, 08:27:34 AM »

A bit like the ICC who answer to Ireland humiliating England at Cricket was to stop them from entering future World Cups.

What an absolutely irrelevant load of dog toffee!

Any excuse to slate the English, hey?
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Re: Football League to expand with 5th division
« Reply #14 on: May 21, 2016, 08:39:30 AM »

If it goes ahead I think the natural solution would be to make the 6th tier (eg conf national) regional
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