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Re: Stalybridge match thread
« Reply #45 on: March 18, 2017, 10:27:16 PM »

Interesting article in the matchday program by Mike Garnett called the unpalattable truth...

Basically stating we have over achieved in the last 13 years or so. Sobering reading.
Can you copy it here ? ... without jumping to conclusions it sounds like we are happy being in the leauge below then ?
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« Reply #46 on: March 18, 2017, 10:48:39 PM »

HI Wayno, whats your email address, will send to you. I cannot upload it.

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Re: Stalybridge match thread
« Reply #47 on: March 18, 2017, 11:00:44 PM »

Another clean sheet.

I don't think Matt is correct for the job (lack of managerial experience( but we've kept a fair few clean sheets recently under him
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Re: Stalybridge match thread
« Reply #48 on: March 18, 2017, 11:05:23 PM »

Based on last 6 matches, we would be mid table. So there is improvement. Far from perfect but it is improving.
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« Reply #49 on: March 18, 2017, 11:08:38 PM »

HI Wayno, whats your email address, will send to you. I cannot upload it.


will pm you thanks
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« Reply #50 on: March 18, 2017, 11:09:23 PM »

Based on last 6 matches, we would be mid table. So there is improvement. Far from perfect but it is improving.

It's certainly worth noting. But unfortunately we've played poor sides, and giving Matt the job full time is one risk too far.
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Re: Stalybridge match thread
« Reply #51 on: March 18, 2017, 11:16:03 PM »

Interesting article in the matchday program by Mike Garnett called the unpalattable truth...

Basically stating we have over achieved in the last 13 years or so. Sobering reading.

Propaganda commissioned by the club?
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« Reply #52 on: March 18, 2017, 11:20:31 PM »

Not sure, send me your email address and I will send it to you.
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Re: Stalybridge match thread
« Reply #53 on: March 18, 2017, 11:32:58 PM »

I found it quite awkward to read tbh

It's basically saying we have to accept the level we are at and we have been punching above our weight for some time

That in its self is probably true to a certain degree . But done it we have and our ambition should be to continue that

It's clever journalism that says we "achieved" higher status vs "earnt" it via straight promotion

I find that quite distasteful and an insult that "this writer" would belittle the achievements of success via a play off

The sweat and effort put in by those during those games is not a real achievement it seems

I wonder if Chelsea will let bayern Munich have the champions leauge Title as it was won on penalties and not in the normal 90 minutes?

Ironically the dictionary meaning of the word "earned" means gain deservedly in return for ones behaviours or achievements

It really is splitting hairs as the word achievement is used in relating to earned

The article sadly Fails to mention the catastrophic appointments of tolson and young that led us to this point

Young for sure has "earnt" us relegation

Very very sad times
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« Reply #54 on: March 18, 2017, 11:34:10 PM »

Not sure, send me your email address and I will send it to you.

Would also Welcome a read
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« Reply #55 on: March 19, 2017, 12:06:54 AM »

I read the article and thought it was nonsense. To begin with, It doesn't seem to register the fact that the Northern Premier League was for a long time equivalent to conference north level and claiming a play off win isn't a justly earned promotion is just plain wrong.

But what's worse is the pathetic attempt to write off our current terrible state as natural and something to be expected. Spin the historical facts whatever way you want - to suggest Altrincham FC can't compete with the likes of Gainsborough, Stalybridge, Bradford Park Avenue, Brackley, Harrogate, Gloucester and Worcester is ridiculous. Rock bottom of the conference north can only be described as UNACCEPTABLE
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Re: Stalybridge match thread
« Reply #56 on: March 19, 2017, 09:10:08 AM »

Its a sad piece that doesnt stand up to logic, that or it fails to appreciate that such "over achievement" has been seen under the guise of the current regime, bit of an own goal if meant to be propaganda.  Everyone entitled to their opinions though.
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Re: Stalybridge match thread
« Reply #57 on: March 19, 2017, 09:11:06 AM »

I've been supporting this club since 1989 and I'm a spring chicken compared to longer supporters

God I feel sorry for them comparing this garbage team to the 1960, 70 s era
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« Reply #58 on: March 19, 2017, 09:45:30 AM »

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« Reply #59 on: March 19, 2017, 10:30:38 AM »

Some tips for next time:

- Simply putting words in bold is not enough, you have to actually define them. Otherwise the essay is a series of baseless assertions, formed around your unexplained distinction between two words.

- Try to avoid conflating facts and arguments. The statement that we finished 17th in the Conference is a fact. The idea that the club deserves to be in the NPL isn't a 'truth'.

- Make sure you don't use non-sequiturs, such as Manchester City and Stockport - they add nothing to your argument, and make the essay seem to be desperately running out of steam.
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