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« on: October 11, 2017, 08:37:44 PM »

An interview with Phil Parkinson on last night's game, including a special mention for the travelling support, is on the the website now.
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« Reply #1 on: October 12, 2017, 07:57:17 AM »

Really good piece thank you.  There can be no way round the long trip issue, sat on a coach for 4 hrs and then the journey home cannot help to an enegetic display, still.  I think due to the way we play some teams with high energy compete well against us, we don't seem to struggle against sides that try to play football
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« Reply #2 on: October 12, 2017, 09:48:12 AM »

Seems rather churlish to be complaining about the travel and using it as an explanation for an off night, dread to think how he would get his head round the conference. Torquay in midweek anyone?

Clearly a young manager still learning the game and still a little starstruck about managing a club like Alty, so I will make allowances

Let the promotion charge continue on Saturday
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« Reply #3 on: October 12, 2017, 10:17:18 AM »

Seems rather churlish to be complaining about the travel and using it as an explanation for an off night, dread to think how he would get his head round the conference. Torquay in midweek anyone?

Clearly a young manager still learning the game and still a little starstruck about managing a club like Alty, so I will make allowances

Let the promotion charge continue on Saturday

We're not in the Conference National. If we were to get back the practical arrangements put in place for long midweek away trips would clearly change, as would the impact on player's work commitments and the knock on effects it would have on recruitment (e.g. we wouldn't be seeing James Poole). I think his comments are pretty reasonable given he's been managing in this league for 3 to 4 seasons and knows what he can get out of part-time players at this level. I was at the game and we were clearly not at our best as I'm sure Whitby weren't when they visited us in August.
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« Reply #4 on: October 12, 2017, 02:06:24 PM »

Is he complaining or stating a fact? I'm sure it's not the whole story but sitting on a coach for several hours must have some kind of effect. 
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« Reply #5 on: October 12, 2017, 06:33:42 PM »

4hrs to Whitby? Did they go on a milk float?!
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« Reply #6 on: October 12, 2017, 08:17:17 PM »

Is it only me that finds the League’s stated policy of playing your furthest away games midweek a bit odd in an entirely part time league? Workington and Whitby away on a Tuesday night you need an understanding boss, basically knocking off at lunch.
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« Reply #7 on: October 12, 2017, 08:30:39 PM »

I was gutted whitby was a tuesday would been a great weekend away
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« Reply #8 on: October 12, 2017, 08:44:41 PM »

Is it only me that finds the League’s stated policy of playing your furthest away games midweek a bit odd in an entirely part time league? Workington and Whitby away on a Tuesday night you need an understanding boss, basically knocking off at lunch.

The explanation of why they do it made good sense - to save your local closer games for a Saturday when you've more chance of a good crowd both home and away.
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« Reply #9 on: October 12, 2017, 08:46:20 PM »

Is it only me that finds the League’s stated policy of playing your furthest away games midweek a bit odd in an entirely part time league? Workington and Whitby away on a Tuesday night you need an understanding boss, basically knocking off at lunch.

Stated policy? Does it say this somewhere? If so how bizarre it makes no logical sense apart from tenuously accepting small gates for longer trips and better ones for shorter weekend trips. Don't get it, not good for players or fans.
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« Reply #10 on: October 12, 2017, 09:24:01 PM »

Is it only me that finds the League’s stated policy of playing your furthest away games midweek a bit odd in an entirely part time league? Workington and Whitby away on a Tuesday night you need an understanding boss, basically knocking off at lunch.

Stated policy? Does it say this somewhere? If so how bizarre it makes no logical sense apart from tenuously accepting small gates for longer trips and better ones for shorter weekend trips. Don't get it, not good for players or fans.


From our website in august news

EVOSTIK FIXTURE POLICY

When the 2017-18 fixture list dealt Altrincham many Saturday 3pm kick-offs against local teams such as Ashton United, Stalybridge Celtic and Warrington Town, but Tuesday 7.45pm kick-offs at their two furthest opponents, Workington (294 miles return) and Whitby (268 miles return), many supporters were baffled. However, it now emerges that short-distance 3pm matches and lengthy midweek journeys are actually the policy of the EvoStik League. Writing in the Albion Review, Witton Albion (and Evostik League) chairman Mark Harris confirms the League's views on assigning fixtures.
Following Albion's own midweek game at Workington last week, Mark wrote that "I was recently asked why long-distance fixtures are played midweek. The answer is simple; to play them at weekends would mean the more local derby fixtures being played midweek instead.

"For most, if not all clubs, it is the local games that generate the most income so, coupled with the motorway traffic nightmares so often encountered at weekends, that's why it makes more sense to prioritise the local games. Of course, I'd rather take a trip like the one to Workington early in the season rather than on a freezing cold Tuesday in January!"
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« Reply #11 on: October 12, 2017, 10:03:04 PM »

Is it only me that finds the League’s stated policy of playing your furthest away games midweek a bit odd in an entirely part time league? Workington and Whitby away on a Tuesday night you need an understanding boss, basically knocking off at lunch.

The explanation of why they do it made good sense - to save your local closer games for a Saturday when you've more chance of a good crowd both home and away.

I guess that makes sense for most of our local rivals with specific regards to our travelling suppprt largely boosting the attendances at Witton and Stalybridge for two so far (similar story next Saturday at Warrington too no doubt) but it really makes little odds to us whether we host Witton or Whitby on a Saturday afternoon as most teams at this level are relatively small and have the fanbases to match. I guess the other point is with the Workington and Whitby examples is that they are so geographically isolated that whoever plays there on a Tuesday night will have had a fairly big trek regardless.
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« Reply #12 on: October 12, 2017, 10:55:06 PM »

I'm led to believe that Farsley drove to us in a fleet of cars (If anyone knows differently, please correct me !)

I'd say a long coach trip is much preferable to the M62 at teatime !
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« Reply #13 on: October 13, 2017, 08:45:34 AM »

I do get the logic - it's only 2 particularly bad games for us, and we've got them out of the way before winter (although Workington threw up a sh*tstorm of weather anyway).

I do think we're now capable of winning all our other games on paper - against anyone - home or away. Of course we won't, but you get what I mean.
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« Reply #14 on: October 13, 2017, 08:54:34 AM »

I kind of agree with Mark Harris's logic. It does make sense but never the less its a big ask for lads to travel 4 hours after work and then perform. Some one said somewhere that Whitby took full advantage of that. Any way an away point is Ok. Over a season these things sort of even themselves out.  I'm sure Whitby will dread travelling to Stourbridge or Henesford on a Tuesday night. Another 3 points on Saturday and Whitby will be forgotten. If Whitby were in the Premiership visiting teams would maybe fly up the previous day, stay over night in a 5 star hotel, do a little light training in the day, maybe a donkey ride on the beach, light tea time meal and then play. The reality is that doesn't happen in non league but it would be nice ha ! SBL
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