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Re: The final Stockport - Match thread
« Reply #45 on: January 01, 2019, 08:03:27 PM »

Richmam MoM today by far ..
Beaten by a well organised side.
Until we get someone up top to help Jason then we will struggle to make the playoffs. We also need a plan B.
At half time today I would have hooked Mantick and put Harrison up top to assist Jordon and gone for it.

We missed a trick today, a  massive crowd and anybody coming to watch Alty for the first time would have gone away thinking we were poor, which is a shame because we're much better than that.

I walked up from the car park by the offices with some County fans who were nice blokes who had good things to say about us and non league football.. As others have said the County fans have had to go through the hard times more than most
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Re: The final Stockport - Match thread
« Reply #46 on: January 01, 2019, 11:19:12 PM »

Im often keen to the lay the blame for defeats with us but Not today (or any of the previous 3 meetings) . Stockport are a very good side who have been stronger than us in every position on the pitch.

I expect them to win the league. Strangely, the best we played against them (in my opinion) was the second half of the trophy game when we'd made a load of personnel changes.
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Re: The final Stockport - Match thread
« Reply #47 on: January 02, 2019, 01:56:07 AM »

Utterly appalling and clueless
2 points from 4 games.
Sort it out parky
If our unambitious clueless chairman lets you.
Rowley out.

Mark,
Bit confused
Are you blaming Phil or Grahame for two points from four games?
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Re: The final Stockport - Match thread
« Reply #48 on: January 02, 2019, 07:37:44 AM »

Utterly appalling and clueless
2 points from 4 games.
Sort it out parky
If our unambitious clueless chairman lets you.
Rowley out.

Mark,
Bit confused
Are you blaming Phil or Grahame for two points from four games?


Both
Our recruitment close season was awful and i dont get the impression there is any desire from the boardroom for anything other than consolidation this season...
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Re: The final Stockport - Match thread
« Reply #49 on: January 02, 2019, 08:58:10 AM »

Stockport were a decent side but we dropped four points against Darlington and Guiseley when we were definitely the better footballing side. We are leaking too many goals at the moment.
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Re: The final Stockport - Match thread
« Reply #50 on: January 02, 2019, 09:25:59 AM »

I don't think we've got the squad balance right at all. We seem to have made quite a few pointless signings without making much effort to really plug the holes. This business of only having one forward on the books was always going to come back to bite us. Just looking at the substitutes yesterday says a lot. We were flat and lifeless and only made a single sub, because we had no one on the bench capable of making an impact or changing our game. I don't understand why we faffed about signing people like Liam Goulding and Josh Langley just to never use them.

Also where was Harrop yesterday, did I miss something?
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Re: The final Stockport - Match thread
« Reply #51 on: January 02, 2019, 10:14:04 AM »

I don't think we've got the squad balance right at all. We seem to have made quite a few pointless signings without making much effort to really plug the holes. This business of only having one forward on the books was always going to come back to bite us. Just looking at the substitutes yesterday says a lot. We were flat and lifeless and only made a single sub, because we had no one on the bench capable of making an impact or changing our game. I don't understand why we faffed about signing people like Liam Goulding and Josh Langley just to never use them.

Also where was Harrop yesterday, did I miss something?

I believe Max was injured
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Re: The final Stockport - Match thread
« Reply #52 on: January 02, 2019, 10:20:37 AM »

Some of the hysterical posts on this thread are embarrassing.

Just like we weren't world beaters when we won 5 in a row, things aren't a disaster now our Christmas points return wasn't as good as expected.

To address a few points:
Recruitment is a bit of a lottery at this level; thankfully we (Phil) did it so well the season before, that the same team has been able to carry us this season. We've had a couple of great loanees.
One team (much like Warrington last season) we simply can't get past, and has also been responsible for both our cup exits. These things happen. They were the bookies' favourites for a reason.
We DO need a solid, authoritative goalkeeper much like Hinchcliffe at Stockport, who reminds me of Tom Heaton - someone calming that can win us 10pts a season.
Injuries and suspensions have hampered us at key moments in the season; and although I enjoy seeing the same XI every week, it would be good for Phil to trust his subs some more. We lost Peers, who is a great squad player at this level.

I'm not concerned yet - however the real acid test will come from this point onwards I suppose. Top 3 should be the dream now - in reality I think we'll be closer to 7th.
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Re: The final Stockport - Match thread
« Reply #53 on: January 02, 2019, 10:27:07 AM »

We need to play Wynne in goal. He has the potential to become a brilliant keeper. We also need to work on bringing in another quality winger as we obviously miss both Owen and Ash badly. Apart from that, we are a very good team and 3rd is not beyond the realms of possibility.
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Re: The final Stockport - Match thread
« Reply #54 on: January 02, 2019, 10:49:56 AM »

We need to play Wynne in goal. He has the potential to become a brilliant keeper. We also need to work on bringing in another quality winger as we obviously miss both Owen and Ash badly. Apart from that, we are a very good team and 3rd is not beyond the realms of possibility.

Totally agree. Wynne was fine until his catastrophic early error at Kidderminster, and then his confidence disappeared. He needs encouraging, and to learn that he simply needs to shrug off isolated errors. The world's greatest goalkeepers aren't immune ! He won't learn that warming the bench. Unfortunately I don't see the same scope for development in Thompson.

We haven't replaced Tom Peers adequately, and we need better than Mantack - though I personally believe that Harrop could do a job for us out wide, where his pace would be an asset.
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Re: The final Stockport - Match thread
« Reply #55 on: January 02, 2019, 12:55:31 PM »

I don't think we can blame Thompson or the referee for our complete inability to pass the ball. Every single outfield player was at constant fault for losing the ball. Not once did we manage to put a string of passes together - we looked like schoolboys against men. Shocking display from everyone.
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Re: The final Stockport - Match thread
« Reply #56 on: January 02, 2019, 01:38:28 PM »



Yesterday was the first Alty home match that I have attended since April 2017 and, alas, my sequence of watching the Robins fail to score a single goal now extends to four consecutive games.

Whilst poor old Tony Thompson might not exactly be a Jeff Wealands or a Stuart Coburn, he does seem somewhat unjustly to be receiving the brunt of the flak for yesterday's latest defeat at the hands of County.

In truth, we were simply devoid of the creativity to break them down (yet again) once they had got their noses in front and there was a dearth of effective options on the bench to change matters.

Both of their impressive full backs, Minihan and Duxbury, are far too good for Johnston and comfortably nullified his threat. Hulme may as well have been suspended again!

Neither Mantack nor Sang look to be of the sufficient quality required to propel us back into the play-off positions.

Thanks to the club and the supporters of both teams for the impeccably observed pre-match Roll of Honour.

My late father was certainly in some illustrious company there alongside such Alty stalwarts as Kevan Guiney, Kenny Palin, Pete Carroll, Isobel Riley and Bernard Taylor, to name but a few.  

  
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Re: The final Stockport - Match thread
« Reply #57 on: January 02, 2019, 02:01:52 PM »

I think keepers always come into flack when you lose, TT could have done better with there fortuitous goal, but as I said previously Hulme was rusty from his enforced layoff and few stepped up to the plate yesterday. That said they didn't create a lot either although they looked fitter and sharper. We were inept and looked "leggy". Confidence was low and psychologically we weren't set up for this game having lost the previous 3 encounters.

Long way to go, and we are still in a reasonable position. lets see how we respond over the next few games and whether we get any reinforcements in/release anyone.
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Re: The final Stockport - Match thread
« Reply #58 on: January 02, 2019, 02:07:41 PM »

Phils transcript below of the main website over yesterdays game....

Phil Parkinson issued a heartfelt plea for unity after Altrincham dropped out of the play-off places following a 1-0 home defeat to Stockport County at a packed J.Davidson Stadium.

An afternoon of frustration for Alty meant they have taken just two points from their last four games, while County have now beaten the Robins four times this season without conceding a goal.

It was hard to take for home supporters in a 3,000-plus crowd, but Parkinson backed his players to reignite a promotion push and urged Alty followers to stick by them, ahead of another tough test at Boston United on Saturday.

‘Stockport are the best out-of-possession team we have faced all season,’ said the Alty boss. ‘I never thought any side would be able to keep us out for four games, so full credit to them for doing that.

‘We threw everyone forward in the last 10 minutes, including one of the centre-backs, and went fairly direct. People may wonder why we didn’t do that from the start, but we would have lost by four or five. We nearly conceded on the break as it was, they would just have picked us off.

‘The players are frustrated, everyone is, but I would just send a plea out to the fans that we must remain positive, because it’s not all doom and gloom. I’ve said ever since I arrived here there will be a tough period, and maybe this is it. But we’ve lost twice in the league in three months. It’s not the apocalypse.

‘There were positives. I keep hearing we can’t defend corners, but we faced more today than we have all season and dealt with them all against a side who specialise in exploiting them. We also showed we have a group of lads who will keep going to the bitter end. I thought we got stronger as the game wore on.

‘I’m certainly not panicking. The pendulum can swing very quickly, and we need to build momentum again, because we’ve had a taste of being in the play-offs and it’s a realistic aim to get back in there.’

In a timely boost for Alty, influential attacking midfielder James Poole returned to training on Thursday (Jan 2nd) after recovering from a hamstring problem.
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Re: The final Stockport - Match thread
« Reply #59 on: January 02, 2019, 04:33:57 PM »

With Some of the replies on here you’d think we were in a relegation battle instead of coming off the back of winning a league title and now pushing, at minimum, for a playoff place almost immediately after promotion. Baffling.
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