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[TheCultOfIanTunnacliffe]

At long last, we will be able to determine just who is the real 'special one'.

In all seriousness, what a cracking draw for a decent Non League club.

[CRT Butty]

I agree totally. But...I can't forget the nonsense Young brought to Alty.

Not yet.

[cheshire cat]

What a shame they won't be able to have a capacity crowd. When will they ever be able to see the likes again

[MarpleAlty]

I agree totally. But...I can't forget the nonsense Young brought to Alty.

Not yet.

It's hard to imagine how anyone could have such a ruinous impact for us ever again.

[Toff Apple]

It could be argued that Harvey was worse

[rorysgrandad]

What a shame they won't be able to have a capacity crowd. When will they ever be able to see the likes again

Their capacity is 3185 apparently. If they're in tier 2 they can have half that. It'll be interesting who can get their hands on a ticket.

[MarpleAlty]

It could be argued that Harvey was worse

At that point, we were already goners.

The thing for me was getting our recruitment done early, going on rival forums and seeing people say 'crikey, Alty are going to be in a mess this season'.

[One Foot in the Grave]

It could be argued that Harvey was worse

Harvey was the fire to Young's frying pan certainly, but if he'd inherited a half decent squad to start with he might have done better. I don't think he realized just how poor we were until he'd got here, then I actually think he became depressed.

[robininstockport]

It could be argued that Harvey was worse

Harvey was the fire to Young's frying pan certainly, but if he'd inherited a half decent squad to start with he might have done better. I don't think he realized just how poor we were until he'd got here, then I actually think he became depressed.

Has Harvey worked in football since?

[Seth]

It could be argued that Harvey was worse

Harvey was the fire to Young's frying pan certainly, but if he'd inherited a half decent squad to start with he might have done better. I don't think he realized just how poor we were until he'd got here, then I actually think he became depressed.

Has Harvey worked in football since?

He's currently a vice president at morcambe, he's not managed since us

[HashtagAlty]

It could be argued that Harvey was worse

At that point, we were already goners.

The thing for me was getting our recruitment done early, going on rival forums and seeing people say 'crikey, Alty are going to be in a mess this season'.

We'd only played about 7 games, so about 6th of the season. Harvey managed to shift a lot and a lot in over his tenure.

[andrewflynn]

It could be argued that Harvey was worse

100%.

We wouldn't have gone down if Neil Young was manager for the duration of the season.

We wouldn't have finished in the top half either, but he'd have eventually settled on a squad that did just about enough.

Jim Harvey's reign did the most damage, for me. Coming in he needed to settle on a squad and system that would start getting some results - but the door revolved at a faster pace than it was doing under Young.

One thing's for certain, Neil Young would not have played Danny Hattersley and Craig Hobson at centre half.

Anyway, massive congrats to Marine. Great club.

[TheCultOfIanTunnacliffe]

Just to put the 2016/17 'season of shame' into perspective:

Neil Young:

League games: 6.
Points gained: 3.


Shaun Densmore, Alan Goodall & Jake Moult:

League games: 3.
Points gained: 1.


Jim Harvey:

League games: 10
Points gained: 3.


Matt Doughty & Robbie Lawton:

League games: 23.
Points gained: 14.


We were 12 points adrift of safety when Doughty & Lawton were appointed and, with over half of the season remaining, I would contend that the perilous position was still salvageable at that juncture.

We proceeded to finish at the bottom of the league, 14 points away from avoiding our second consecutive relegation. 

[CRT Butty]

Just to put the 2016/17 'season of shame' into perspective:

Neil Young:

League games: 6.
Points gained: 3.


Shaun Densmore, Alan Goodall & Jake Moult:

League games: 3.
Points gained: 1.


Jim Harvey:

League games: 10
Points gained: 3.


Matt Doughty & Robbie Lawton:

League games: 23.
Points gained: 14.


We were 12 points adrift of safety when Doughty & Lawton were appointed and, with over half of the season remaining, I would contend that the perilous position was still salvageable at that juncture.

We proceeded to finish at the bottom of the league, 14 points away from avoiding our second consecutive relegation.

Holy cow batman. We were bobbins!

[RageAgainstTheFirstTeam]

Interesting that, of the above coaches, the only one to ever manage again was Young. Obviously Moult and Densmore are still playing, but I find it interesting that Doughty immediately jacked it in.

Harvey was terrible, no doubt. But Young had an entire pre season to get things sorted and it was disastrous. I don't know if he was having some kind of brain attack or what. We actually didn't win a single PSF, until a hastily arranged match against a Witton XI got us that elusive non-competitive victory. It was quite clear then that his squad management was appalling. He failed to recruit in key areas in a way I've never seen from another Alty manager. God, you think Adariboyo for Hulme is bad? I'll raise you Billy Hasler-Cregg for Josh Ginnelly.

That season was so bad it led to a collective delusion among the Alty faithful, leading to Lawrence Taylor becoming the most overrated footballer in history. 

Incidentally, I did a "where are they now" a few years ago for the players on that season which shows how poor so many of our signings were (under all managers).

http://www.altyfans.co.uk/index.php?topic=23166.msg274400#msg274400