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National League meeting today.
« on: February 01, 2021, 10:29:48 AM »

I believe there is a National League meeting with Clubs today to determine the options for continuing (or not) the season.
When are we likely to hear the outcome?
What do we think that outcome will be?

I'll open by suggesting that the NLN & NLS will opt for curtailment and the National will opt for playing on fearful of losing the promotion places.
Having said that, there will be several NL clubs who would struggle if that happened - Kings Lynn, Dover and Wealdstone have already said as much. A couple more, if they have doubts, could swing things the other way.
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Re: National League meeting today.
« Reply #1 on: February 01, 2021, 10:43:40 AM »

I believe there is a National League meeting with Clubs today to determine the options for continuing (or not) the season.
When are we likely to hear the outcome?
What do we think that outcome will be?

I'll open by suggesting that the NLN & NLS will opt for curtailment and the National will opt for playing on fearful of losing the promotion places.
Having said that, there will be several NL clubs who would struggle if that happened - Kings Lynn, Dover and Wealdstone have already said as much. A couple more, if they have doubts, could swing things the other way.

I guess, they will vote today, once they know the options. I really hope the NL continues even with lack of funding as previously promised.
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Re: National League meeting today.
« Reply #2 on: February 01, 2021, 05:22:39 PM »

Latest from PA. Interesting that the clubs say it will cost the Government more in furlough, etc if the league has to stop than it would cost it to pay the grants.

NATIONAL LEAGUE PURSUE MINUTES OF KEY FUNDING MEETING CALLED BY DCMS
By Jamie Gardner, PA Chief Sports Reporter

The National League has asked for the minutes of a key meeting called by Government last November where it claims assurances were given that it would not have to pay back coronavirus crisis funding.

The 66 clubs in the National League and the North and South divisions below it are set to vote this week on whether or not to cut the season short, after learning that £11million due to be offered as part of the Government's Sports Winter Survival Package would be in the form of loans rather than grants.

It is understood each of the three leagues will take separate votes over whether to play on, with a resolution set to be sent to clubs in the first part of this week.

In correspondence seen by the PA news agency, the National League claims it was told at a meeting called by the Department of Digital, Culture, Media and Sport (DCMS) on November 17 that "the second tranche of monies for January/February/March 2021 would be on the same principles as the initial tranche ie grants".

National League clubs were supported through the period between October and December of last year by a Government-brokered commercial deal with the National Lottery which did not involve any repayment, but they are now very concerned about their ability to make ends meet.

Scott Priestnall, the chairman and owner of National League side Yeovil, told the PA news agency: "We have consistently asked for minutes of that meeting and it's strange that DCMS, on such a high-profile meeting where £10million was being handed over effectively, that there aren't minutes to that meeting.

"We have asked consistently for these minutes and they haven't provided them."

The National League says it has pointed out to DCMS that the cost of curtailment and placing staff on furlough at 66 clubs would be a bigger hit to the taxpayer - £14million - than to pay £11million in grants.

Priestnall says DCMS's response was that furlough related to "a different department".

DCMS said in a statement last month: "It is untrue to suggest funding to the National League was ever promised as all grants and they have been unable to substantiate this claim."

Sports minister Nigel Huddleston told the clubs in a letter last week that the loans are "extremely low interest" and "on lengthy repayment terms of up to 20 years".

He has said grants will be available to those in most urgent need of support and added: "We will not let clubs go to the wall."

Priestnall, who revealed his club need £750,000 in order to complete the season,  says he will vote to continue the season but expects it to be a close ballot, even in the highest division.

"There sits another issue - if there is a small majority that want to continue the league - let's say 65 per cent - what happens to the 35 per cent who said they didn't want to play?" Priestnall said.

"Do we force them to play, do we force them to take loans, do we tell them they don't have to play, and if they don't have to play what happens to their points?"
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Re: National League meeting today.
« Reply #3 on: February 01, 2021, 09:18:45 PM »

Ollie Bayliss has tweeted the resolutions but I don't know how to link to Twitter
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Re: National League meeting today.
« Reply #4 on: February 01, 2021, 09:45:06 PM »

« Last Edit: February 01, 2021, 09:48:43 PM by Altyrocket »
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Re: National League meeting today.
« Reply #5 on: February 01, 2021, 10:18:13 PM »

Looking more and more like shutdowns for the NLN & NLS and up in the air for our league.
My guess is we'll carry on.

But it doesn't seem like we're going to come to a decision any time soon! 😉
« Last Edit: February 01, 2021, 10:33:20 PM by Saughall Robin »
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« Reply #6 on: February 01, 2021, 11:49:14 PM »

Not so sure Saughall Robin. The first resolution requires 75% to say yes for it to be carried. Can't remember where I read that but it's because it's a special resolution rather than an ordinary resolution.

If the 75% isn't reached then it's straight to resolution 4 which is a vote by all teams on whether or not to close everything down.
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Re: National League meeting today.
« Reply #7 on: February 02, 2021, 04:07:45 AM »

28 days for them to send back their replies wasn't it?

Will enough games have been played by then to decide the season on ppg by then? (And can we be 7th on ppg by then? :) )
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« Reply #8 on: February 02, 2021, 08:25:40 AM »

28 days to reply takes us to March,leaving just March and April and maybe 1 week in May to play,seems a bit late in the day to be talking about cancelling the league.We as fans could help with donations of clubs that we support,Alty did it for the play off last season,so why cannot other club fans do it for their teams?
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Re: National League meeting today.
« Reply #9 on: February 02, 2021, 09:07:13 AM »

Although there are 28 days to reply I would suggest that the vast majority of boards have already made their decisions. Delaying will only incur unnecessary costs for those that want to call it a day. I think we will have a result before Saturdays games.
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Re: National League meeting today.
« Reply #10 on: February 02, 2021, 09:25:09 AM »

Not so sure Saughall Robin. The first resolution requires 75% to say yes for it to be carried. Can't remember where I read that but it's because it's a special resolution rather than an ordinary resolution.

If the 75% isn't reached then it's straight to resolution 4 which is a vote by all teams on whether or not to close everything down.
Yes but the NLN and NLS only have 4 votes each so it will be close
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Re: National League meeting today.
« Reply #11 on: February 02, 2021, 09:45:02 AM »

Bit mad that NLN & NLS only have 4 votes each imho.

I do think that it should be a league decision not a divisional decision.  But hey ho
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« Reply #13 on: February 02, 2021, 11:32:19 AM »

A lot could depend on how the 4 or 8 votes in the nln are created, is it just 4 voices or do they survey their members and turn the proportions into votes.  If 1 fails then the possibility of all fail or all remain is troublesome
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« Reply #14 on: February 02, 2021, 12:36:33 PM »

No idea how the positioning/determination of the 4/8 votes happens. It just adds to what is a messy situation.
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