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Re: Stockport Match Thread
« Reply #60 on: January 13, 2022, 03:43:04 PM »

Sorry to say I found it to be a really tough listen. A worrying listen. Hopefully it's just because it was in the aftermath of defeat because if that's representative of the general vibe around the place then we are in serious trouble.

It is thoroughly depressing to have the leader of the club come across so resigned to and acceptant of defeat against a team in our league. Worlds most resources or not, squad of Avengers or not, we are in this league on merit and I expect us to go into every game with the positive belief that we can achieve a result. Toby Mullarkey in midfield, man. Come on now. Side note - I really thought we'd have been given some insight into that, bit of a let down.

We have always known what we are relative to some of the powers in this league but the problem is we appear to have lost the belief that we can go toe to toe with them. As we did with Notts County. As we did with Grimsby. At Chesterfield. The next thing you know that self doubt creeps into winnable game, and here we are.

Grimsby on Saturday, another big club with a big budget and great squad, albeit underperforming. How are we as fans supposed to turn up to these games expecting a spirited performance from our team when our manager plays down our chances against these sides?

As one of the lads has put in the group chat:

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Football is so much about mindset and this leadership style of being a super realist doesnít cut the mustard. We all know what heís saying is true - as do the players. But the whole club needs to believe we can perform at a high level consistently, even if doing so is overachieving. This whole ďpoor usĒ mantra makes the wins feel like flukes and the defeats feel depressing.

I am absolutely sure that we had a better attitude when the season began, but it has gone missing and it needs to be reignited by Phil and Neil. If we don't get this back then make no mistake we won't be long for the National League. Can't mope about feeling sorry for yourself at this level. We have seen this play out before.

Go back to what got us here in the first place and get at them on Saturday, lads.
Andrew, your so right with this post in my opinion. Let's hope we start to play more positive again as we know we can.
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Re: Stockport Match Thread
« Reply #61 on: January 13, 2022, 03:56:10 PM »

9 minutes I won't get back. Not even a hint of an apology.

Bore off Parkinson talking about resources. You were fine last season against Stockport. We should have drawn with Grimsby.


This is harsh. Whilst I agree that it isnít a great idea for Parky to use the full time part time excuse too much as it can become an ingrained defeatist approach, we have to be realistic and realise that some of the teams we are up against wouldnít look out of place in League 1. There are some powerhouse teams in this league and overall Parky has done a fantastic job. Do you think there is a manager out there that with the resources we have that could do a better job?
I personally wouldnít have selected the same team against Stockport but I also don't feel as if he should be apologising in any way for his team selection or losing a couple of games of football against Stockport.

We've not lost a game, we've been battered. Twice.

Once I'll take on the chin, but fans of 20 years walking out with 30 minute to go. We deserve someone with some fire.

Parkinson football got us here. Being cowardly got us relegated.

Plenty of managers would love this role, as we saw under Tolson, Harvey Young. Parkinson FC attitude caused this 1.win in 18

I stand by my comments that Parkinsons style of football is what gives us the best shot of the FL dream. Right now we aren't playing it, and we made some poor calls on Dinanga and Piggott
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Re: Stockport Match Thread
« Reply #62 on: January 13, 2022, 05:09:02 PM »

I didn't expect anything from the Christmas period but the next three games are all winnable.
Seven points would be great but anything less than four would be unacceptable to me.
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Re: Stockport Match Thread
« Reply #63 on: January 13, 2022, 05:25:06 PM »

Just listened to the managers interview .

I thought Brian should have asked the pertinent questions ie What was your thought process to play Mullarkey in midfield when you have the likes of Furman in the squad.

PP stated that the lad who scored the second goal had a bit of luck. Iím sorry but everyone stood off him and when he hit the shot Tommo was routed to the spot. 2-0 down Sod all to do with luck.

Fair enough if Jordon was injured in the warm up then I understand the reason he didnít come on.

Letís hope things improve sharpish or a trip up that Creek without a paddle will be on the cards.

Play the best lads in the correct position in a way that we all know and love the way they can.
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« Reply #64 on: January 13, 2022, 05:31:51 PM »

I distinctly remember Robbie Lawton coming right over to the perimeter fencing to front up after the 5-0 defeat at Eastbourne. Those days, and those types, are gone. I'm not saying the two results are comparable but we've still not had a word from Moult throughout this run. Programme column doesn't count, it's probably ghost written.

I said a few weeks back I can take or leave a Parky interview at this point. I would however really appreciate it if we could hear from some of our senior players. Let me put it plainly, this squad does not have anywhere near the connection with the fans that previous ones did. We need to do more to rebuild this. Results will obviously help, but I'd like to know more about how this has been for them. Maybe I'm on my own in that.
Good point Andrew, we would get a more balanced view of whats happening.



On the program, the columns are written at least a week before the game so of little relevance anymore.



I remain bewildered as to why the deadlines for the Robins Review are so far in advance of its publication, especially in this day and age.

Consequently, a lot of its content is largely out-of-date and somewhat redundant in relation to the actual fixure being played.

I would also say that the programme constitutes a disappointing case of being 'more style than substance' and nowadays I probably purchase it more out of sheer habit.
It certainly looks like a rather feeble effort when compared to the quality issues produced by the likes of Wealdstone and Stockport County respectively this season.

Plus the editor remains a shadowy figure!
 
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« Reply #65 on: January 13, 2022, 05:36:06 PM »


Just listened to the managers interview .


I thought Brian should have asked the pertinent questions ie What was your thought process to play Mullarkey in midfield when you have the likes of Furman in the squad.




The elephant in the room.

To quote a tongue-in-cheek message that I received from an Alty diehard yesterday:

"We're paying a manager a full-time wage to spend all week thinking up Toby Mullarkey in midfield?::)

At least Heathcote cut the grass."
 

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Re: Stockport Match Thread
« Reply #66 on: January 13, 2022, 06:38:28 PM »

Not seen an interview like that from parky before. Basically accepting defeat and saying we cannot complete. Its 11 v 11 on that pitch and we have always gone into every game with belief we can get something. Based on that we are going into games against the bigger teams just ready to roll over and move onto the next game.

I hope I'm wrong in that but are we at the point now where this team doesn't belive it can hold its own in this league?
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Re: Stockport Match Thread
« Reply #67 on: January 13, 2022, 07:18:35 PM »

Stockport are a very very good team. However, it is worth noting that apart from us and against a very understrength Grimsby in the Trophy, their other recent results have been

Torquay 2 Stockport 1
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Stockport 1 Solihull 0

Yes, they are good, but world beaters they are not. We were just pants twice.
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« Reply #68 on: January 13, 2022, 11:01:29 PM »


Fair enough if Jordon was injured in the warm up then I understand the reason he didnít come on.

Iím a little puzzled by this assertion as I was in the ground at approx 18.53. At that point only TT and Steven Drench were out on the pitch. At 18.55 the team was announced on twitter, with JH on the bench.
The rest of the team came out for the warm up about 19.00 and JH was taking an active role in it.

Unless there was a pre warm-up warm-up, I fail to see how an apparent injury after 19.00 caused him to be a substitute before 18.55.
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« Reply #69 on: January 14, 2022, 09:06:46 AM »


Fair enough if Jordon was injured in the warm up then I understand the reason he didnít come on.

Iím a little puzzled by this assertion as I was in the ground at approx 18.53. At that point only TT and Steven Drench were out on the pitch. At 18.55 the team was announced on twitter, with JH on the bench.
The rest of the team came out for the warm up about 19.00 and JH was taking an active role in it.

Unless there was a pre warm-up warm-up, I fail to see how an apparent injury after 19.00 caused him to be a substitute before 18.55.

It's getting to resemble Boris's garden party. There's a lot of downright dishonesty floating around right now, and it's not what we're used to - and it's certainly not what we deserve.
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Re: Stockport Match Thread
« Reply #70 on: January 14, 2022, 09:13:56 AM »

I didn't see any cheese and wine.

I don't know what was going on but as things stand I hope that Jordan was being kept out of sight of any Grimsby scouts.
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« Reply #71 on: January 14, 2022, 09:20:33 AM »

The Hulme debate is puzzling, but no near as puzzling as to why Mullarkey started in midfield.
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« Reply #72 on: January 14, 2022, 10:44:55 AM »


I don't know what was going on but as things stand I hope that Jordan was being kept out of sight of any Grimsby scouts.

Will they be Sea Scouts?
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« Reply #73 on: January 14, 2022, 11:50:06 AM »

I think, listening to the interview carefully, that what PP said was that Jordan was on the bench because he had played the full 90 minutes at Barnet (he looked absolutely knackered at the end) and didn't come on because he tweaked his groin in the warm up. Just my reading of it. If I can come up with an explanation for Toby being in midfield I'll post it, don't hold your breath though
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« Reply #74 on: January 14, 2022, 03:24:40 PM »

I think, listening to the interview carefully, that what PP said was that Jordan was on the bench because he had played the full 90 minutes at Barnet (he looked absolutely knackered at the end) and didn't come on because he tweaked his groin in the warm up. Just my reading of it.
Now that makes sense. Thanks for that.
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